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Mesa and the Classifieds Section

I think people get a little excited by the frequent posts from a Mesa employee (former employee? I dunno) and it's almost like Mesa has become the 'house brand' for TB. I like Mesa stuff just fine but sometimes the hype on here for it can be a bit much. Not at all saying the member isn't helpful or that Mesa stuff isn't great, I just think there's bit of psychology at play in regards to how much people build up the brand.
I've never gotten the sense that person is here to promote Mesa at all. In fact, the preponderance of his posts seem to be general amplifier advice not connected to any one brand. Also, and not for nothing, he's at Mesa presently but has in the past worked at many amplification companies whose names we all know.

He's no shill, he's just a very credible and helpful Talkbass member who works in our business and discloses the company he works for like he's supposed to.
 
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I've been posting here since 2005. Gear goes in and out of fashion constantly, none more than amplifiers. Thunderfunk, anyone? Mesa, despite being a household amplifier name for generations, recently has enjoyed some great new product buzz around the Subway line.

Bunches of people around here buy whatever is new and interesting and then flip it later when something else catches their eye. I think you're seeing a bit of that happening with Mesa.
 
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What on earth is a Power Violence Band......

and how can I join one?
It's mostly yelling, some nice chord progressions and breaks, and like... being angry and making guitar feedback but on purpose.

and, from personal observation, if you hang around house shows and dive bars wearing patched up denim jackets and looking pissed off enough, they'll probably find you. They'll hand you a business card, and offer to have their people meet up with your people over lunch and maybe discuss having their respective bosses (you and them) about maybe having lunch to discuss maybe jamming sometime.
 
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I think people get a little excited by the frequent posts from a Mesa employee (former employee? I dunno) and it's almost like Mesa has become the 'house brand' for TB. I like Mesa stuff just fine but sometimes the hype on here for it can be a bit much. Not at all saying the member isn't helpful or that Mesa stuff isn't great, I just think there's bit of psychology at play in regards to how much people build up the brand.
I'll admit that agedhorse's presence on TB - along with the many testimonials from various players here - is a big part of what prompted me to look into Mesa amps when I decided I wanted a bit of a change from what I'd been playing. I'm well aware of the kind of hype that can be generated on TB - but that doesn't mean the hype is unwarranted.
 
My Mesa amp is currently not for sale, nor is my Little Mark III. ;)

Lots of people sell things for lots of reasons.
- They need cash
- The item doesn't play well with the other gear they own
- SO finds out what they really paid for it
- Simple buyers remorse, for whatever reason
- They no longer need the item
- They like something else better

I've had 40-ish amps in my life. All were sold for a few of the above reasons. Some that I've bought were being sold for some of the other reasons.

What's really important to notice about current gear is how fast it moves and at what price. A lot of great gear carries a far greater resale percentage that not so great stuff
 
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I think people get a little excited by the frequent posts from a Mesa employee (former employee? I dunno)

You mean the guy who built the stuff, supports it and several other brands he formally built, tries to protect amateur speaker designers and amp modders from themselves, while suffering through complete ignorance, and personally wrote the freely available without purchase Mesa manuals so we can understand exactly what we're buying before we spend a dime?

That guy? Yup, all hype... :roflmao:
 
I am a Mesa fanboy since I got my first Mark amp and owned various of their guitar tube amps, I always see them as an all tube amp maker even though that has changed since the Carbine bass amps. I also have a Mesa bass 400 (the one with 6505 tubes ) and also owned the Prodigy 4:88. If you have an SVT tube amp, you won't really be so motivated to get an SVT3 or SVT7, would you? Unless I get the gig that requires that kind of volume and tone, I probably will not get a Subway amp. Had one on extended loan but preferred the AI and EA amps for class D and it's because of what I play and there's the Bass 400 in the shed. Maybe I will get the WD-800 someday but not enough motivation or even GAS.

I had interactions with Mike Bendinelli and Trent Blake and Deb before and they were helpful and knowledgeable. Mesa had always great customer support and great people working for them.
 
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You mean the guy who built the stuff, supports it and several other brands he formally built, tries to protect amateur speaker designers and amp modders from themselves, while suffering through complete ignorance, and personally wrote the freely available without purchase Mesa manuals so we can understand exactly what we're buying before we spend a dime?

That guy? Yup, all hype... :roflmao:

Barry you beat me to it.

I find it a real gift that industry professionals like Andy Field, Jeff Genzler, Jon Moody from GHS, Bruce Johnson, and more are willing to stick their head in here and offer advice and counsel to guys like me, and I can never thank them enough. These are all busy people who give of their time to help out who I'm sure have better things to do, so I really appreciate it, and have learned a lot from them.

Does it make me want to put Mesa, Genzler, GHS, etc., at the top of my lists? Damn straight it does, out of gratitude and respect. I've yet to hear any of them shill for their own products, not once.
 
I mean, this could be said for any of the really popular brands… have you looked at the number of Sushi Box and Broughton Audio ads in the effects classifieds? Or how about Boss or MXR - do they count?
Right? It’s almost like every single For Sale post in the Classifieds is somehow bass-related. What’s up with that? ;)
 
A couple years ago it was Aguilar Tonehammers - they were such the rage that “everyone” bought one and then there was a new “gotta have” amp, so people started selling their Tonehammers.

Eventually amps end up at their “forever home” or at least long term home, and you see less of them for sale used. Mesa Subway will be the same thing.
 
I have noticed on Talkbass many Mesa enthusiast buy all 4 Subway 800 series then keep the one thay prefer and sell off rest also many buy and sell their way through all 4 one at a time.
This was the case with me. I’ve bought and sold all four of them. I’ve even gone through two of the models twice to finally determine the one that works best for me, which is the D-800+.
 
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Just wondering really, but why is it that there is a subway amp or cab being listed for sale just about every day?

I mean, just about every dang day I see another perfect condition subway amp up for sale.

Why?
Mesa makes great amps and they offer more options on the sounds of those amps than most manufacturers do. Odds are they bought it and used it and then decided they wanted one of the other Mesa amps instead, so they are selling the one to get another. You know if you have questions about which Mesa amp would suit you and your circumstances best, @agedhorse here on TB designed them and could point out the differences and probably make some recommendations for you depending upon what exactly you're looking for in an amp.
 
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