Mesa Boogie Subway 210 vs old Diesel 210?

[grooveway]

Didn't see this in a search but if it exists just send me that way please...

Have an older diesel 210 with the Eden speakers (heard some came this way) - flat out love this cabinet. Been my go to for many years.

Right now it isn't seeing as much action as the rig stays on the road for the most part and due to higher volume applications it the diesel wouldn't be enough (the venues usually have FOH but many fill in gigs between do not). I'm running a 410 with a Crest Pro 7200 and older Trace pre.

Had my eye on a subway 210 (thinking 2 for a modular easy load 410) but reading some reviews it may not sound very similar to the old diesel? Any experience out there? IMO the diesel has punch and a tasty mid for my setup.

The 3 factors that tempt me with the Subway is the weight, power handling, and its a Boogie that is hopefully close to what I have....

BTW not planning to get rid of the diesel. Will keep it for local lower volume stuff.

Thanks in advance!

 

[agedhorse]

I suggest trying one before deciding.

 

[Old Fart]

From what I have read, the Subway 115 might be the best small bass cab of all time.

 

[grooveway]

I suggest trying one before deciding.

Thanks.... wish I could but none I know of local.
Any other input or opinion is much appreciated

 

[Doufuss]

Didn't see this in a search but if it exists just send me that way please...

Have an older diesel 210 with the Eden speakers (heard some came this way) - flat out love this cabinet. Been my go to for many years.

Right now it isn't seeing as much action as the rig stays on the road for the most part and due to higher volume applications it the diesel wouldn't be enough (the venues usually have FOH but many fill in gigs between do not). I'm running a 410 with a Crest Pro 7200 and older Trace pre.

Had my eye on a subway 210 (thinking 2 for a modular easy load 410) but reading some reviews it may not sound very similar to the old diesel? Any experience out there? IMO the diesel has punch and a tasty mid for my setup.

The 3 factors that tempt me with the Subway is the weight, power handling, and its a Boogie that is hopefully close to what I have....

BTW not planning to get rid of the diesel. Will keep it for local lower volume stuff.

Thanks in advance!

I had one with the EV drivers, so I'm not sure how it relates to yours with the Edens. It was a very loud (read sensitive) cab with great low mid punch and a really smooth high midrange and tweeter. I sold it because it was too heavy. And that's the only reason.

There are some videos on youtube featuring the 2x10 Subway that could help you make your decision. In my limited experience with the Subway, it's a completely different animal than the Diesel. It has deep lows and nice smooth high end, but you'll have to dial in some low mid to get a similar tone to the Diesel. What's great about this cab is first of all the weight, at around half the weight of the Diesel, and second it is very responsive to eq changes. Plus, the Subway will take a lot more power without breaking a sweat.

I'm pretty much convinced I'm going to buy one in the near future.