Can anyone tell me the difference in sound between the M-600 and the WA head? I use my WA head with two WA cabs, a 15 and a 12, but sometimes it is just not loud enough. Wondering about the M-600 head.
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Mesa Boogie Walkabout Part 6
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Chef
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600:
More power
not 2 ohm stable
different eq points
more modern sounding
less vintage sounding
bigger lows, higher highs, less mids
not as rich or warm as the Walkabout
There's been plenty of folks here who had hoped it was a bigger Walkabout, but, it's not.
More power
not 2 ohm stable
different eq points
more modern sounding
less vintage sounding
bigger lows, higher highs, less mids
not as rich or warm as the Walkabout
There's been plenty of folks here who had hoped it was a bigger Walkabout, but, it's not.
I have a 1966 B-18 and a 1978 SVT I use with an Aguilar DB410 so I really do not go for a modern sound. My Brownface non updated Walkabout into 2 4om Aguilar GS 112's Is what I am using for my current blues thing and it sounds perfect. Flat with master and gain at noon.
I think the nicest tone I ever had was-
Fender P w/ flats into Walkabout head into Berg NV215!
Such a sweet bouncy vintage juice!
Fender P w/ flats into Walkabout head into Berg NV215!
Such a sweet bouncy vintage juice!
Chef
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I did that for one gig and hated the NV215. All bottom, no top end.
Not my thing, IME.
Two Mesa Diesel 115's: rocked.
Not my thing, IME.
Two Mesa Diesel 115's: rocked.
Chef said:
Another great example of how we all hear differently & must get differing tones when we play. Cool!
Chef
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True story
I gigged the NV215 once, and couldn't get it gone fast enough!
Man, that thing was dastardly to move too, so, it was fine with me
With the Walkabout, anymore, I'm using two LDS 2x8's, stacked vertical, one with mid driver, one with horn.
I gigged the NV215 once, and couldn't get it gone fast enough!
Man, that thing was dastardly to move too, so, it was fine with me
With the Walkabout, anymore, I'm using two LDS 2x8's, stacked vertical, one with mid driver, one with horn.
From the experiences I have read on TB, the Mesa Titan is your best alternate amp solution for getting the Walkabout tone with more power. There is also the BB750, but it doesn't really add that much more headroom apparently (also based on the experience of others). If I were you though, the first thing I would do is try your Walkabout with some bigger/louder cabs- I use mine with a 6x10 and it gets pretty frikkin loud!
also remember the common wisdom that with 300w to work with from the WA head, you may just need more drivers, not more power, to get the added volume you seek. Not sure that you will get a whole lot more volume by pushing 600w into the 1x12 and 1x15.
I used to use the same rig (WA 12 combo + Scout 1x15) for my larger gigs and really loved what the Scout 1x15 added to the mix. Ultimately gave it up when I realized that I was getting FOH support for the larger gigs and did not really need to schlepp the extra cabbage.
Chef
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It's true: more cones can cure what's ailin' you with the Walkabout.
It'll easily push two SVT 810's, if you want to carry that much.
I don't want to carry that much
However, it will also easily push two GK 212's Neo's, and I don't mind moving those at all.
It'll easily push two SVT 810's, if you want to carry that much.
I don't want to carry that much
However, it will also easily push two GK 212's Neo's, and I don't mind moving those at all.
+1 to pfschim's post above (& Chef's)
I once had a function type gig in a lovely old deco styled room (built for big bands in the 40's) that has great acoustics. Probly about 5-600 ppl, no PA support for bass-just voc's, sax & kick in FOH.
I took the Walkabout, but had the Shuttle 6.0 there as back up, in case I needed more....
Ran the Walkabout into 2 Berg AE cabs- a 112 & a 212, so it was operating at 2.67 ohms.
I had heaps of spare volume, heaps. & a lovely tone, only bettered by the NV215
imo x)
I once had a function type gig in a lovely old deco styled room (built for big bands in the 40's) that has great acoustics. Probly about 5-600 ppl, no PA support for bass-just voc's, sax & kick in FOH.
I took the Walkabout, but had the Shuttle 6.0 there as back up, in case I needed more....
Ran the Walkabout into 2 Berg AE cabs- a 112 & a 212, so it was operating at 2.67 ohms.
I had heaps of spare volume, heaps. & a lovely tone, only bettered by the NV215
imo x)Thanks for the info Chef...too bad Mesa can make the WA with more power, but that has been said before many times here.
I was wondering, you had a bass for sale a while back and the photo background appeared to be Puget Sound (here in Seattle) but you don't live here...what gives?
I was wondering, you had a bass for sale a while back and the photo background appeared to be Puget Sound (here in Seattle) but you don't live here...what gives?
Chef
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Question - The walkabout mid control is a passive tone control, so 7 O'clock would be zero boost and full clockwise would be full boost for the mids - but at what Hz?
Chef
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The manual doesn't specifically say, and, I don't specifically know.
Note: "passive style." "boost only" "competently remove"
It can't be boost only, and cut things, really...hmmmm....
IIRC; Scope analysis from an earlier megathread showed "flat" at about 10 oclock for the mid control, thus sort of countering the boost only claim tha manual makes.
Whatever it is, it's good
From:
http://www.mesaboogie.com/manuals/WalkAbout.pdf
MID: This is the only passive style control in the string of rotary tone controls. This scheme was chosen for its inherently musical
blend and for the way the passive style midrange control, with its wide spread and smooth taper, fi lls in the holes. Unlike the BASS,
this control is a boost only, and while it can competently remove this broad
spectrum of midrange from the mix, it cannot provide the extreme attenuation
of an active style control.
You will fi nd, as we did, that this control works amazingly well for shaping the
midrange frequencies with a natural earthiness and character that is a perfect
counterpart to its active neighbors. It is hard to dial wrong with this more forgiving
control, as it seems to give you just enough and no more. This simplicity can be
a welcome respite from the higher tech power of the adjacent tone controls...not
to mention the 3 Band SEMI-PARAMETRIC EQ For radical and specifi c scooping
of the midrange frequencies for modern R&B and Funk styles, there is plenty
of notching power that is infi nitely more accurate to be found in the 3 Band SEMI-PARAMETRIC. Because of this, we opted for the
tried and true passive style midrange control that has been working great in all of our amplifi ers for decades. It’s hard to improve on
a classic
Note: "passive style." "boost only" "competently remove"
It can't be boost only, and cut things, really...hmmmm....
IIRC; Scope analysis from an earlier megathread showed "flat" at about 10 oclock for the mid control, thus sort of countering the boost only claim tha manual makes.
Whatever it is, it's good
From:
http://www.mesaboogie.com/manuals/WalkAbout.pdf
MID: This is the only passive style control in the string of rotary tone controls. This scheme was chosen for its inherently musical
blend and for the way the passive style midrange control, with its wide spread and smooth taper, fi lls in the holes. Unlike the BASS,
this control is a boost only, and while it can competently remove this broad
spectrum of midrange from the mix, it cannot provide the extreme attenuation
of an active style control.
You will fi nd, as we did, that this control works amazingly well for shaping the
midrange frequencies with a natural earthiness and character that is a perfect
counterpart to its active neighbors. It is hard to dial wrong with this more forgiving
control, as it seems to give you just enough and no more. This simplicity can be
a welcome respite from the higher tech power of the adjacent tone controls...not
to mention the 3 Band SEMI-PARAMETRIC EQ For radical and specifi c scooping
of the midrange frequencies for modern R&B and Funk styles, there is plenty
of notching power that is infi nitely more accurate to be found in the 3 Band SEMI-PARAMETRIC. Because of this, we opted for the
tried and true passive style midrange control that has been working great in all of our amplifi ers for decades. It’s hard to improve on
a classic
Thanks Chef.
I checked the manual, but it sounds flat @ 9:30 to me and sounds like it slightly cuts at 7:00-8:00. So I was a little confused.
I checked the manual, but it sounds flat @ 9:30 to me and sounds like it slightly cuts at 7:00-8:00. So I was a little confused.
That passive mid control has been the topic of many discussions. It's a little confusing, BUT, what they say about it being "musical" and "powerful", is absolutely true. Sometimes, it's the only eq knob I'll use.
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