Yeah. The TT seems to have spawned most of the sales of 800s, 800+s, and WDs.
I currently have a 800+ and would love a TT800.
I currently have a 800+ and would love a TT800.
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Mesa resale value dropping?
- Thread starter PraiseBassing
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I'd say no.
Looking at the TB classifieds and online listings, I'd say Mesa may be holding value better than some other brands.
The market is probably a bit depressed because of the economy and gig situation. People are parting with gear they aren't using and even though GAS is real, there's not as much demand right now. Both of those issues lead to a buyer's market. Yet, I see the Subways listed for $625-650 selling on TB. Of course, the final sale may have been negotiated down, who knows, but they seem to be selling at that price, which is only about $100-125 off retail. Same ballpark used discounts on the WD-800s I see listed as sold.
I've seen some low prices on Ampeg and Fender amps and cabs on the local CL. Other than an occasional guitar amp, I don't see a lot of Mesa gear on CL around here.
Looking at the TB classifieds and online listings, I'd say Mesa may be holding value better than some other brands.
The market is probably a bit depressed because of the economy and gig situation. People are parting with gear they aren't using and even though GAS is real, there's not as much demand right now. Both of those issues lead to a buyer's market. Yet, I see the Subways listed for $625-650 selling on TB. Of course, the final sale may have been negotiated down, who knows, but they seem to be selling at that price, which is only about $100-125 off retail. Same ballpark used discounts on the WD-800s I see listed as sold.
I've seen some low prices on Ampeg and Fender amps and cabs on the local CL. Other than an occasional guitar amp, I don't see a lot of Mesa gear on CL around here.
Every time I a new product is released (like the TT800) a pile of the previous generation amps come in the market and supply/demand makes them much cheaper. I’m considering snapping one of them up except I already have a Mesa subway+ preamp and tend not to use amps onstage anymore so it’s hard to justify....but still very tempting.
- Feb 12, 2006
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Just a note about this, the TT and WD amps (and actually all of the amps in the line) are simply different. The TT is not “better” than the other models, they are all simply different and appeal to different players (for both tone and feature sets).
There have always been players who try or use different amps, it’s part of the enjoyment of playing. Different bands might dictate different choices as well, no different than different basses.
With different choices available, it’s no surprise that Amos get bought and sold on the used market, this is not unique to any brand either.
There have always been players who try or use different amps, it’s part of the enjoyment of playing. Different bands might dictate different choices as well, no different than different basses.
With different choices available, it’s no surprise that Amos get bought and sold on the used market, this is not unique to any brand either.
In mesas case I think the used amps are dropping in price for a couple reasons. For one amps like the 400 and 2000 are getting really old now. The m pulse amps are getting up in age also. Also pretty much all heavy amps values have nose dived on the used market, that’s not just a Mesa thing. It’s gotten really hard to sell any bass amp heads that weight over 10 lbs. But I think part of it with Mesa specifically is the subway series. With the subway series the heads are actually very competitively priced imo. The cabs are still expensive but the newer amps are surprisingly affordable for a brand known for being more pricey. When I bought my subway head that was part of it. You can buy a brand new Mesa d-800 for $799 why spend 600 or 700 on an old amp that’s out of warranty and weights 10-20 times as much?
I think it finally got realistic. I always saw Mesa stuff for almost the same price as new. I know its good stuff but guys would use an amp for a year and list it for 100 bucks off retail.
Now (on TB at least) it’s also another 5,6,7 % off because of no sales tax collected by individual sellers.
(raises hand) - I bought a D800 when it came out and still love it. But I ordered a TT800 because it has everything I would want to get me to upgrade (hello two channels). But I might sit on the D800 for a while rather than sell for the reasons above. Its warranty is up too, I believe.
- Feb 12, 2006
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Another reason for older amps losing value, especially tube amps, is that the cost of repairs and maintenance is very real, and impacts what the purchaser might encounter as a final cost once the amp is properly serviced. On an amp like the Bass 400+, or the SVT, the cost of service and a set of tubes could add $400 - $500 to the final cost of the amp, which unfortunately impacts the selling price.
In the case of lead sled solid state amps, the cost of service impacts these as well, though generally not as much.
There's also the cost of shipping, which impacts the final cost to the buyer. For a larger, heavy amp, this can be significant.
In the case of lead sled solid state amps, the cost of service impacts these as well, though generally not as much.
There's also the cost of shipping, which impacts the final cost to the buyer. For a larger, heavy amp, this can be significant.
...and sometimes the G.A.S. is so great that folks are willing to take a hit, wanting to move on to the
new toy, in some cases, the TT 800
new toy, in some cases, the TT 800
....all used gear is either moving slower or selling lower.....C19 is the big factor, but the fact that Mesa rolled out 4 great heads over the last few years has to have a Mesa domino effect as well. When the TT came out I started looking for a used WD800........I moved when prices dropped low enough....bought one for 750 shipped a couple of months ago and was posilutely blown away......just bought a 2nd one (for backup and use at a secondary location) this week......my older backup head (a silver EA iAmp microwill be FS when the 2nd WD800 arrives, and I don't expect to get that much for it if I really want it to move within a reasonable time. For me, the real head scratcher is seeing older Mesa heads (Carbines, etc), FS used with asking prices close or even equal to a new Mesa head.........sitting unsold for a loooooooong time.....there's one TBer whose M9 has been FS for over $900 in the classifieds forever..........
I’ve always played tube Marshall Bass heads (& Marshall cabinets). I have a Marshall Major 200w, a couple 100w JCM800, a couple 50wJCM800, a couple 100w Super Bass, & a few more. NONE of them have ever gone down in price. They only keep getting more expensive. It depends on what amps you buy.
Was it listed at a higher price and the price that it sold for was not displayed? Maybe I saw all the prices they initially asked, but not what they actually sold for. I’ve only recently noticed the WD’s being listed for less than about $900. I could have just not been paying attention before. Again, I have not been looking for an amp and probably won’t anytime soon. The thought just crossed my mind as I was browsing and thinking that iff you’re only getting $100 off the price of new, you’re better off buying used and getting the warranty. A WD at $750 might be enough of a discount tho.
The age of COVID isn't helping used gear values. It's a buyer's market.
...posted at 800 + shipping, bought for 750 shipped
Mesa used prices used to get a shore up by the manufacturer 5 year warranty being transferable.
