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Metalcore????

Is metalcore a dying style of metal

  • YES

    Votes: 24 34.8%

  • NO

    Votes: 13 18.8%

  • Its still here, but on its way out

    Votes: 18 26.1%

  • Its still popular and is alive and well

    Votes: 14 20.3%
  • Total voters
    69
  • Poll closed .
#43
Sizlack said:
Blah...i quit even looking at the labels although some of them are really hilarious. Finntroll is classified as Ompa Folk Metal. If it sounds good I'll listen to it regardless of genre or sub-genre.
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No offense,

But I used to be that guy "Oh labels are so stupid".

But how else do you sell your music to prospective people? If someone asks before they will listen, like many do, what do you tell them. Labels can be helpful. Like if you wanted to promote your band you could say " if you like metal core and bands like XXX".

I think its important to know where your music fits. Especially if you are trying to market it. If not then who cares.
 
#44
TheVoiceless said:
Yeah the folkmetal seems to have small buzz around the states. I was thinking of a less produced/raw sound. Like early Thrash. I see kids (I'm 31) at these shows really respecting the early 90's thrash bands. Even the 80's for that matter. Something that sounds like old Metallica. Rough production and pure anger. Some balzing solos.
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Folk/pagan metal was and is always extremely strong here, as for thrash: it seems to go up in demand in last year or so.
I am bored right now, so i went through local musician websites: all, except 4 folk metal and 1 death metal, bands that are/were forming during last ~6months were thrash. That would be few dozen of bands, and Lithuania is really one of those midget countries.

I'd say interest in thrash went up due to the world crisis. Hey, to get black metal on the wave in early 90ies only few churches had to go down, so bringing back angry and drunk shouldn't be too hard for crisis :P
 
#48
TheVoiceless said:
Thanks for the feedback..

I see a lot of dislike for the whole genre. If you click on my sig you can hear my group which has been called metalcore. If you would like take a listen and give me the feedback.

We just lost our drummer so I was thinking now would be a good time to work on a new sound for the group. Members have argued that the biggest bands in metal these days are considered metalcore. Which I agree. But I just think that its a flooded market and we will get lost in the shuffle.

At the end of the day we write and play music we like. But we have a lot of other influences collectively. We also are considering how we can break out so to speak. And a different style of metal may help us.
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chasing the popular genre is always a bad idea, by the time you get to where you were aiming the target has moved.
 
#51
baalroo said:
chasing the popular genre is always a bad idea, by the time you get to where you were aiming the target has moved.
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Exactly. Today you have to rip off the sounds that will be popular in 2-3 years. But those sounds don't exist yet, so they aren't around to be ripped off. It's not that easy.

I'd love to try doing a band that mixes I Would Set Myself On Fire For You (not false or commercial, but... well, I don't hate all such music completely, haha) with something like Black Veil Brides. Either that or a cross of Fight Fair and Fail Emotions. Now that my old crunkcore project is pretty much turning into Nigerian-style hip-hop instead, I wanna do something else with more -core in it.
 
#54
pklima said:
Haha, why pick on them? Shouldn't you hate Fail Emotions and Fight Fair even more?
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because the lead singer is from my hometown. he is a hack and a sell out. after years of hiring and firing band members at will, taking credit for all their efforts writing songs for HIM, he decided to move to cali with the bands name and reputation, knowing damn well the band wouldnt follow him out there.

he hired a new band of transvestites and is parading around hollywood like hes the kings ****. got picked up by a digital label that distributes for victory and its really gone to his head.

andy biersack is the cancer of the music industry. every one of his hired guns is a talented person. the band is tolerable. he, his mediocre vocals, and his attitude are deplorable.

yes, this is a personal matter. no one over the age of 16 has any business buying into his/their hype.
 
#56
The Last Rebel said:
Good lord, I wish it would die. No, instead it's getting bigger, not to mention aborting more horrible subgenres every day with deathcore and crunkcore bieng the worst.

For those who don't know, metalcore is used today as a huge umbrella term for all sorts of bands that sound nothing alike. For example, Converge and Killswitch Engage are both metalcore. Good metalcore these days is few and far between, but what it is is extreme metal (thrash, death, grind) crossed with hardcore punk (DRI, Black Flag, etc). However, once Killswitch Engage came on the scene, they changed everything. They added in some clean vocal passages and more emotion/love type lyrics than most bands had. This was fine, because both Jesse Leach and Howard Jones had awesome voices, rough or clean, the music was tight, and the lyrics were fairly well written. However, every angsty teenager in America started copying their blueprint, but added in infinitely worse vocals, cheesy lyrics, and big, stupid breakdowns. And that is how we've ended up with crappy bands like August Burns Red, The Devil Wears Prada, Attack Attack!, Brokencyde, and way too many other horribly awful bands to even try to name.

In short, in the beginning metalcore was good. You had music that sounded like metal but with way more intensity. KSE shows up and launches literally hundreds of horrible bands wearing the overly styled hair, tight v-neck, and girl pants uniform. I like good metalcore like Converge or Coalesce and think it's sad that there are kids stealing riffs that Norma Jean stole from someone else. One caveat. I'm not in any way an expert about the genre and what I've given is way too simplistic of an explanation, but it's the best I could do without writing a novel.
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+1000000000000000000000000000000

My old band took the whole "core" thing to heart... alls they wanted to do was put breakdown after breakdown into their songs... the guitarist was "emo" and wrote lyrics about suicide, hating his life and all that sh!t. His band before that put up to 3 BREAKDOWNS IN ONE SONG!!!!! I was kicked out shortly after the first show for many reasons... one of the many being I hate any and all forms of "core" music with a burning passion...

"hardcore" *shudders* anything involving that name or "br00tal" or "breakdowns" makes me wanna puke...

I agree the first few "core" bands were pretty good... but its been watered down and destroyed... like hair metal was... some of the first hair bands kicked ass... then alls it turned into was getting more makeup and more hairspray worn and making the stage show bigger and better... and the videos cheesier and cheesier...

Now 20 years later the cycle is repeating itself, now its detuning the guitars lower and lower to the point of the strings becoming rubber bands, putting more and more breakdowns into a song until thats all you hear is "dun... DUNDUNDUNDUND BELELELELELE DUNNNN", and becoming more "br00tal" then the next...

Sorry but from were I come from metal is NOT pink flip flops and grandma glasses ranting about how you hate your life because your a spoiled little brat and your parents finally are making you do something for somebody else... Its DENIM AND LEATHER, its going all the way saying what you feel, not worrying about pissing anybody off, going against what your told... its about telling people your pissed off and why, its about trying to start a revolution... its about giving the social outcasts the one thing nobody else can... hope. :bassist:

Just my .02
 
#58
I wouldn't call any of these "core" genres, Metal imo they're all just bad mixes. Give support to ture Heavy Metal genres, people not these rubbish "cores".

Metalcore, deathcore, Grindcore, Mathcore and anyother core I say pffft! :ninja:

Sorry for that little rant, I just can't stand these ballless, screachie, bands been called Metal.

What are good modern Metal band you ask? White Wizard, Enforcer and McQueen to name a few of the more lighter accessible modern Metal bands imo :bassist: :bassist:

Example of Enforcer

I've said my peace, cheers for reading. :hiding:
 
#59
Tbh, I wouldn't put grindcore in with metalcore and the rest of them, it may a "core" genre but it's definately deserving of the suffix because, in my opinion, it's the closest thing to hardcore punk nowadays. I hate to see bands like converge reffered to as hardcore, hardcore to me is D.R.I., Black Flag, Minor Threat, etc. not that overproduced stuff .
 
#60
motionkid said:
its about giving the social outcasts the one thing nobody else can... hope. :bassist:
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And what's so terrible about us non-outcasts borrowing some ideas from some outcast music, and making our own non-outcast music with it?

I really don't see that as anything terrible. You have you true stuff, we have our false stuff, everybody goes home happy.
 

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