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Metalcore????

Is metalcore a dying style of metal

  • YES

    Votes: 24 34.8%
  • NO

    Votes: 13 18.8%
  • Its still here, but on its way out

    Votes: 18 26.1%
  • Its still popular and is alive and well

    Votes: 14 20.3%

  • Total voters
    69
  • Poll closed .
Good lord, I wish it would die. No, instead it's getting bigger, not to mention aborting more horrible subgenres every day with deathcore and crunkcore bieng the worst.

For those who don't know, metalcore is used today as a huge umbrella term for all sorts of bands that sound nothing alike. For example, Converge and Killswitch Engage are both metalcore. Good metalcore these days is few and far between, but what it is is extreme metal (thrash, death, grind) crossed with hardcore punk (DRI, Black Flag, etc). However, once Killswitch Engage came on the scene, they changed everything. They added in some clean vocal passages and more emotion/love type lyrics than most bands had. This was fine, because both Jesse Leach and Howard Jones had awesome voices, rough or clean, the music was tight, and the lyrics were fairly well written. However, every angsty teenager in America started copying their blueprint, but added in infinitely worse vocals, cheesy lyrics, and big, stupid breakdowns. And that is how we've ended up with crappy bands like August Burns Red, The Devil Wears Prada, Attack Attack!, Brokencyde, and way too many other horribly awful bands to even try to name.

In short, in the beginning metalcore was good. You had music that sounded like metal but with way more intensity. KSE shows up and launches literally hundreds of horrible bands wearing the overly styled hair, tight v-neck, and girl pants uniform. I like good metalcore like Converge or Coalesce and think it's sad that there are kids stealing riffs that Norma Jean stole from someone else. One caveat. I'm not in any way an expert about the genre and what I've given is way too simplistic of an explanation, but it's the best I could do without writing a novel.

this guy knows whats up ^ I couldn't have said it better myself.
 
His band before that put up to 3 BREAKDOWNS IN ONE SONG!!!!!

i actually did that last week in a very tasteful way. if you keep your breakdowns interesting and use them as a piece of the song, not just a gratuitous mosh section, they can be fun.

i play a couple solos over breakdowns. countermelodies. we put vocals over them. some people have said we were inventive for that, but i imagine its been done a billion times before, its just very unpopular.

it is precisely what happens when one member of the band listens to it dies today, and another listens to a lot of muse.
 
I'm currently the bassist for a metalcore band (Seventh Story Demise, you can check us out on iTunes) and I love what's going on in this genre currently (clean vocals, MIDI). Here is the kind of stuff I'm listening to now:
 
No offense,

But I used to be that guy "Oh labels are so stupid".

But how else do you sell your music to prospective people? If someone asks before they will listen, like many do, what do you tell them. Labels can be helpful. Like if you wanted to promote your band you could say " if you like metal core and bands like XXX".

I think its important to know where your music fits. Especially if you are trying to market it. If not then who cares.

I understand why they are there, I just personally quite bothering with it. with the availability of music samples on the internet its much easier to just listen to a sample to determine if its worthwhile or not...although that has on occasion bit me in the ***.
I listen to a little bit of everything and am more apt to listen to something based on it sounds like X band than its in such and such genre.
 
You guys need to get educated on metal man :rollno:
+1
Metalcore is a mix between Thrash and Hardcore Punk. Every sub-sub-genre of it seems to be less and less Metal. Who's heard of this "crabcore"? People seem to think they can just put -core onto any word. Why don't they try learning to play actual music rather than wasting energy on s**t names than make no sense? It gives a bad name to metalcore which actually started as a great genre. It was pushed back by all these other idiots. But still as the original point. Real Metalcore won't die. As long as we know what it is, that's all that matters. Besides, everyone knows Progressive/Technical Death Metal is the way true Metal is going. Who needs this fusion with Hardcore Punk when real Metal is still going stronger than ever? ;D
 
Eh, I've tried listening to metalcore or whatever, like Suicide Silence. I didn't care much for it personally, but I guess to each their own. I appreciate metal from every little genre from Deep Purple to Lamb of God don't get me wrong, but the genre just doesn't catch my interest. Seems like a teenage angst thing.
 

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