michael manring question

[Fred19137]

for michael, or anyone who knows his work what is the tuning in come with me my love. I am confused because some open notes( conflict with the harmonics) are you changing tuning durring the song? If you could tell me I would thank you forever.

 

[bongomania]

You might want to post this in the Lawson/Manring forum, I'm not sure how often he checks the general technique forum.

 

[Fred19137]

how do i move this and how do i post in that forum.

 

[Pacman]

I'll move it for you

 

[erix]

For sure, he is continuously changing the tuning of his bass while he is playing, even during the same song, that's part of his own style.
Not only it is effective from the resulting sound perspective but it is also visually impressive.

 

[Fred19137]

well I know some of his songs he does change the tunings and others he does not. I am really starting to get the feeling he is changing the tunings durring the song because the lowest note he plays conflicts with the harmonics he plays. so maybe he is. And if it is that case I was just wondering what the initial tuning is. thank you very much.

 

[Obsdian]

Fred, here are the tuning changes as lsited in the Solioquy Extended Notes that are used on the track 'Come with me my love'. Michael plays this one on his main Zon Custom Sonus/ Hyperbass hybrid. This should point you in the right direction.

F A♭ E♭ A♭
E♭ A♭ E♭ A♭
E♭ A♭ D♭ A♭
F A♭ D♭ A♭

 

[Fred19137]

thanks i will definately use that!

 

[Fred19137]

is there a video somewhere I could see. I can do without, but it will make things quiker and easier since I might try to play it a different position than michael does.

 

[Fred19137]

for a bit now and I seem to have most of it. Thanks for the tuning, that really helped. Maybe in a few months I will try to get all of the song. right now I have most of the song but there just a few parts I can't play because I cannot change tunings like him acurately mid-song. I was smart enough to change some of the harmonics to chords so that I could make the same sound without changing the tuning. However, I realized I could not do this for all the parts because the blurriness of notes that the harmonics easily side step. The hardest part for me was finding the harmonics. they don't work like regular notes where going up the neck will always produce a higher note. It is almost always the opposite. But I took my time and now I have my own abrigded version, not as good but good enough for this point in my music career. Thanx for all the help.

I wish you could teach me some stuff one on one michael manring but I know how valuable your time is and how I should wait until I am much better to begin even contemplating asking such a thing. So I guess I am saying that I really admire you, as a musician and a hero to look up to and to aspire to be.

 

[deckard]

This may be obvious and/or already known to you, but I just thought I'd mention it:

Michael uses Hipshot Xtender tuning keys on all 4 strings of his Zon Custom Sonus/ Hyperbass hybrid (aka "Junior")... as well as on his Zon Hyperbass.

This is how he can change tunings so quickly and accurately during his compositions.

Being extremely talented and practicing for 1000's of hours over decades doesn't hurt either...

 

[betarparliament]

I am a beginner. Considering to buy a 4 string Bass within 1000 USD price range. Liked both ESP LTD AX-404 & Fender Jazz Bass 24. Plz advice

 

[Fred19137]

well being a beginner I would not advise using all that money. Get a cheap bass and make sure that you like the instrument. I have seen quite a few people buy expensive instruments just to decide it was not for them.