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Mike porcaro better than Gene Simons?
- Thread starter Langueta
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In order to apply this logic consistently: We should also disregard the praising of Kiss by anyone who hasn't sold a million records, too, right? I mean, they're clearly just as unqualified to pass judgment. Let's just go ahead and shut down the Bassists forum now.
Maybe part of the problem with the 'chippy' nature of many of the posts in this lovely thread is the absence of qualifying terms like IME, or IMHO, or YMMV. Please allow me to demonstrate.
Gene Simmons is an OK bassist, IMHO, but had a knack for writing tunes/basslines that had an obvious appeal to many, as evidenced by his bands significant record sales, and live performance popularity, which seems to be kickin' even today. He also appears to have inspired many to play the bass guitar which, IMO, is noble. Do I listen to or own KISS material? No, I don't, because it doesn't appeal TO ME. As far as it's appeal to someone else I have no opinion . IMO Mike Porcaro is a very talented bassist who has contributed to many recordings in popular music, and has worked in the industry as a studio/touring musician because of his abilities, including working for Mr. Simmons. Interestingly enough, I do not own any of Totos material, and possess some of Mr. Porcaros recordings only as a matter of consequence when purchasing a Steely Dan recording or two.
I don't 'hate' or 'love' one or the other. Nor do any of my preferences regarding these fine gentlemen have anything to say about anyone else or their personal preferences.
I cannot disparage anyones' likes or dislikes, for I don't know you and even if I did, my likes are mine and yours are yours, and we should agree to let each other have our own opinions in peace.
The last thing we need to do is take any of this personally, after all it isn't about any of us, is it?
Hugs and fist bumps for all!
Gene Simmons is an OK bassist, IMHO, but had a knack for writing tunes/basslines that had an obvious appeal to many, as evidenced by his bands significant record sales, and live performance popularity, which seems to be kickin' even today. He also appears to have inspired many to play the bass guitar which, IMO, is noble. Do I listen to or own KISS material? No, I don't, because it doesn't appeal TO ME. As far as it's appeal to someone else I have no opinion . IMO Mike Porcaro is a very talented bassist who has contributed to many recordings in popular music, and has worked in the industry as a studio/touring musician because of his abilities, including working for Mr. Simmons. Interestingly enough, I do not own any of Totos material, and possess some of Mr. Porcaros recordings only as a matter of consequence when purchasing a Steely Dan recording or two.
I don't 'hate' or 'love' one or the other. Nor do any of my preferences regarding these fine gentlemen have anything to say about anyone else or their personal preferences.
I cannot disparage anyones' likes or dislikes, for I don't know you and even if I did, my likes are mine and yours are yours, and we should agree to let each other have our own opinions in peace.
The last thing we need to do is take any of this personally, after all it isn't about any of us, is it?
Hugs and fist bumps for all!
Wait... what's this I read??? Are this..... words of..... wisdom?????? What they hell are THEY doing here???? Don't they know it's the intranetz???
Now you sound bitter because you are in a situation of having to play any crap that comes along for $$$$$$.
Also, you extrapolated/assumed all that, when my point was merely that money and talent do not equate to the same thing.
Hi
Cant confuse being talented with being rich and famous. Not all rockstars are musicians and vise versa.
Could Pocara do Gene's gig? Probobly not
Could Gene do Porcara's gig? Def Not
So there you have it
Rob
Cant confuse being talented with being rich and famous. Not all rockstars are musicians and vise versa.
Could Pocara do Gene's gig? Probobly not
Could Gene do Porcara's gig? Def Not
So there you have it
Rob
HI
Not sure if I remember well but wasnt many of the bass playing ghosted throughout on Kiss records? Didnt Bob Babbitt dont some of it?
Rob
Not sure if I remember well but wasnt many of the bass playing ghosted throughout on Kiss records? Didnt Bob Babbitt dont some of it?
Rob
I just cant imagine G.S stupid rolling hip and tongue gymnastics, while playing Pamela.
HI
Interesting link. Bob Kulick, I believe, was the guitarist on Aerosmiths "Train kept a Rollin". Its very obvious it wasnt Joe Perry.
Rob
Interesting link. Bob Kulick, I believe, was the guitarist on Aerosmiths "Train kept a Rollin". Its very obvious it wasnt Joe Perry.
Rob
Now you sound bitter because you are in a situation of having to play any crap that comes along for $$$$$$.
Also, you extrapolated/assumed all that, when my point was merely that money and talent do not equate to the same thing.
Alright, let's just call it. You and I officially cannot communicate because you take everything I say to mean something else. Your first sentence above is wrong and not what I said at all. Should I ever find myself in NSW Australia, I look forward to not having a beer with you. But thanks for cluing me into that whole money/talent equation. Anything else super duper obvious you'd like to point out?
That they have big socks?
And we *are* assuming that Gene is a "man"...
Of course, were "he" a woman....
eeeeeeeeeewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
Quit spreading propoganda, dammit.
He wrote his own damn basslines for the first 6 albums, he played on them all. That solo was not intended to be a show of talent, he was trying to get the crowd going, is all. While it is true that he had ghost musicians during the 80s(he had a movie career going at the time) playing his parts, that is NOT true of the 70s, and how you can tell is because in the 80s, all the parts were roots, and Gene does NOT play roots. It's been documented, and proofed that Gene DID, in fact, play on ALL of the early albums. Why is it so hard to believe that Gene didnt play on any of the early albums if he can play those lines live?? Oh, that's right, because he doesn't solo like all of you jazz snobs....he doesn't need to, he plays rhythmic, catchy, walking basslines that fit KISS's music perfectly.
Granted, that was a bad solo, but one bad solo doesnt make 35 years of good playing go away.
And as for Gene not inspiring anybody with his playing.....he inspired me, I play bass becuase of the guy.
And by the same token, as you all state that fame does not equal talent, neither does complexity or speed, sorry. I could sit for 2 hours and play with my fingers on by bass, or slap and pop mindlessly, but it equates to nothing for me, it sounds like garbage. However, I admit I could never write a bassline as catchy as Goin Blind, or 100,000 Years, or Strutter.
I'll bet you didnt watch those videos AT ALL, either.
Someone help me out here, please??(Jimmy)
You people disgust me.
Spreading false information about ghost players when you have no idea what you're talking about.:scowl:
Sorry, my blood starts boiling when people(RE: jazz snobs) say crap like this about him.....I mean, I wouldn't be playing bass had it not been for the bassline in Goin Blind.....
And no, maybe fame doesnt equal talent, but apparently someone forgot to tell all these people that Gene is no good, and I'm willing to bet that a good 10% of those people were inspired by Gene to pick up bass....
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