Mixed Cabs

[rufus.K]

 

[Bodeanly]

 

[wmhill]

I used that configuration for some time, then switched to a 2x10 & 1x15 for portability. I loved it, had no issues,and got a ton of compliments on my tone.
But be aware....you've poked the bear, and the haters will be flinging poo everyplace!

 

[CL400Peavey]

I used that configuration for some time, then switched to a 2x10 & 1x15 for portability. I loved it, had no issues,and got a ton of compliments on my tone.
But be aware....you've poked the bear, and the haters will be flinging poo everyplace!

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[Gravedigger Dav]

 

[higain617]

I usually mix an 8x10 with an old boombox.

 

[Bodeanly]

Spoiler

I would also like to add that, for years, I gigged, toured, and recorded with a 410 on top of a 115. I bought them both used and only because they were super loud and looked super cool. I ended up moving to just a 410 after spinal surgery in 2004. I was oblivious to the complete disdain for mixed cabs until I joined TalkBass last year.

 

[Coolhandjjl]

 

[ahc]

I mix this...

with this...

And for bedroom practice I use this...

 

[wmhill]

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now that's a rigorous pummeling !

 

[two fingers]

I wasn't going to bother, but here we go.

(sigh)

First off, OP, if you get the tone/mix you like, I'm happy for you. I;m not sure why you need validation from others for your theories. If you're happy, I'm happy.

Second, your point assumes (as many others' do) that 15" speakers/cabs automatically sound "more bassy....er" and 10" speakers/cabs sound "more brighter...er". This simply isn't the case. For every 15" cab you show me that shows more warm and boomy I can show/build/demonstrate one that will produce srystal clear mids and highs. For every 4-10 cab you show me that is particularly clear and bright I can show you another that is pure wall shaking mud.

The perception that bigger speakers mean "bigger" tones is an incorrect one.

Just as an anecdotal example, my Euphonic Audio VL-210 will produce more "boom" than my Mesa Scout 15" cab or my old Fender 15" cab. And that's just in my house. I'm sure others could chime in. I haven't had the pleasure of hearing one in person, but I read that the Acme LowB will tear down block walls.

Either way, as long as you are getting the tone you love, let it eat.

 

[Gravedigger Dav]

Exactly @Bob_Ross. Although 410/115 is an extreme example... I generally use 210/115.

Although I have seen 410/115 used on stage - with low stage volume.

Until a year ago when I went to a Class D combo, I gigged for several years with a 1x15 and 2x10. I had plenty of volume and excellent tome. Ignore the flat earth folks out there.

 

[seamonkey]

Every time I have seen mixed cabs used by big named bands, the basically mic 1 of the 410 speakers and mic the 115, then blend the two at the mixer.

Somebody needs to add some sound effects to the those graphics of beating dead horses
It would be all Foley Sound Effects, not real of course, just like all the mics and cabinets aren't real in many big named bands. Normally what is heard out front is DI. Mics capture the part of the cone they're pointed at. I never seem to see multiple mics on a cone, and separate mics on the ports and tweeters, that would be better fake than the old single mic per cabinet fake often used now.

I have seen studio setups that do use multiple mics per cone. Some of these are released as impulse response for cabinet modeling. A recording engineer can pick mic combinations and distances for the modeling. And these plugs can also be used live. Some of the big names always have computers sitting at the mixer desk.

 

[wisconsindead]

This spot is taken.

 

[Ric5]

Every time I have seen mixed cabs used by big named bands, the basically mic 1 of the 410 speakers and mic the 115, then blend the two at the mixer.

I use that technique when I record as well.

The thought here is that you should not use this combination because 1 will be starved/not heard over the other.

However, in most gigs I have played, my stage rig wasn't to provide enough volume to be heard by the house, but to provide the tone that I need for a solid mix.

What say ye?

Entwistle mixed cabs and he sounded great ...

 

[morgansterne]

They could just as easily be mic'ing both so that the FOH engineer can listen to both of them and pick the one that sounds best.

 

[Marko 1]

Just my thinking... If I'm feeding the same signal to two different full-range cabs, I have to assume they're likely to sound different, and react differently to... everything, including EQ.

I'm not sure why someone would think there would be an advantage to this, unless they enjoy a challange getting any particular tone, or certainly the cleanest if that's a goal.

 

[Coolhandjjl]

Entwistle mixed cabs and he sounded great ...

Yeah, but Entwistle would sound great coming out of a cell phone. . He's Entwistle! (or was)

 

[wmhill]

 

[Downunderwonder]

just got the 2x10- yesterday... looking forward to giving this (mixed) stack a whirl!

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Spin the 210 on end.