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Double Bass Monitoring and busking (battery powered, stand)

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Thanks for all your replies so far!

Wasnex said:
FYI, The Phil Jones Ear Box is not really intended as a stand alone solution.
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Yes, I know. I was thinking about using it as a monitor and guessing that it would be way too low in volume it crossed my mind that I could find something for monitoring AND busking.

At the moment I think I'll go with the EV Everse 8, but I have yet to look into power stations, like the Jackery you mentioned.
 
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kento said:
I use JBL eon one compact. It works decent. I have used double four and Bose S1 pro but I needed more low end. JBL has an 8 inch woofer which has a nice bass response.
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Did you get a chance to try or hear the EV Everse 8?

JBL, Bose S1 and EV Everse seem to be competing around the same ballpark.
I don't think the difference would be huge for monitoring, but for busking?
 
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Carfax said:
Did you get a chance to try or hear the EV Everse 8?

JBL, Bose S1 and EV Everse seem to be competing around the same ballpark.
I don't think the difference would be huge for monitoring, but for busking?
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I have never tried Evers 8 but it seems Everse 8 is the best the sounding portable speaker. I want one but I’m can not afford to to pay twice as high as JBL.
 
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Interim conclusion
as I got to try out the EV Everse 8 for a couple of rehearsals and two small gigs:

A speaker on a stand, at ear level, right next to me makes all the difference in monitoring.
I can't imagine going back to only using a combo on the floor - which I don't even hear anymore when using the speaker on a stand.

At high volumes I get a little buzz from the speakers with some notes/frequencies, but overall I like the sound, which keeps the double bass sounding natural (and not "fatten" it up, turning it more into an electric).

One thing though, I prefer the sound when using the DI Out from my Zadow-combo to the EV.
I think of getting a preamp and getting rid of the combo for good. (Maybe getting second EV for bigger gigs.)

Any recommendation for a preamp to use with a Shadow SH 965-NFX Nanoflex pickup (to the PA/EV speaker)?
 
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Carfax said:
Interim conclusion
as I got to try out the EV Everse 8 for a couple of rehearsals and two small gigs:

A speaker on a stand, at ear level, right next to me makes all the difference in monitoring.
I can't imagine going back to only using a combo on the floor - which I don't even hear anymore when using the speaker on a stand.

At high volumes I get a little buzz from the speakers with some notes/frequencies, but overall I like the sound, which keeps the double bass sounding natural (and not "fatten" it up, turning it more into an electric).

One thing though, I prefer the sound when using the DI Out from my Zadow-combo to the EV.
I think of getting a preamp and getting rid of the combo for good. (Maybe getting second EV for bigger gigs.)

Any recommendation for a preamp to use with a Shadow SH 965-NFX Nanoflex pickup (to the PA/EV speaker)?
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For the Shadow NFX almost any voltage amplifying preamp (that’s everything beyond a simple piezo buffer) would work, but for an 8” speaker you should have a high pass filter. At least 20 dB amplification max. might work best as the NFX is a bit quiet. So a HPFpre might not have the amplification you need.

I tried my cheap Behringer B208D that work very well with the E-Piano of my wife with my DB on a stand, but with more than just a little bit of amplification volume (and no HPF) I quickly hear the air moving out and into the speaker. So that is the reason why I would recommend the HPF.
 
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buldog5151bass said:
Can't you change to orientation of the amp (put it side) and tilt it back so it's aiming more upwards?
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Not really, since the main speaker is down-firing.
After trying out the speaker on the stand I found that it's a big improvement to having it tilted on the floor (the EV8's housing is made to stand at an angle when put to the floor).
Monitoring for me, so far, is not about having a nice overall sound, but desperately trying to hear myself when the band gets loud.
 
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DoubleMIDI said:
For the Shadow NFX almost any voltage amplifying preamp (that’s everything beyond a simple piezo buffer) would work, but for an 8” speaker you should have a high pass filter. At least 20 dB amplification max. might work best as the NFX is a bit quiet. So a HPFpre might not have the amplification you need.

I tried my cheap Behringer B208D that work very well with the E-Piano of my wife with my DB on a stand, but with more than just a little bit of amplification volume (and no HPF) I quickly hear the air moving out and into the speaker. So that is the reason why I would recommend the HPF.
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As I want to keep things as simple as possible I'm not looking for a HPF as an extra gadget.
The EV8 has built in low cut presets and I think many preamps will have something similar.

Right now I am considering Headway's EDB-1 and -2.
 
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Carfax said:
As I want to keep things as simple as possible I'm not looking for a HPF as an extra gadget.
The EV8 has built in low cut presets and I think many preamps will have something similar.

Right now I am considering Headway's EDB-1 and -2.
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You can try the built in high pass filter, but typically you cannot vary the frequency, only the steepness of the filter. With a frequency variable filter you can better keep most of the bass so that it doesn’t sound too thin. With the variable steepness you either get too much bass resulting in air pumping or cut off too high (or not high enough).

Just what I think about it, feel free to do whatever you want. Your decision and your responsibility. If it works, it works. If not …
 

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