Yes, earlier runs of the Mono M80 would cause some necks to become tinted black/gray where the neck rested against the neck support. Mono has said that has long been corrected. I have had multiple M80 bags and not experienced this problem.
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Mono Vertigo vs Ultra Vertigo
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Yep. With the skinny Jazz neck, I run out of velcro on the Headlock flap trying to get it tight. As tight as I can get it, the headstock can shift enough for the tuning keys to touch the side. I thought about adding some extra velcro to the flap--easy enough, but even if I do that I'll still use the bandana solution--can't hurt!
I don’t think the flap is really meant to keep the neck completely immobile, just to keep it on top of the foam block. Since the block is completely flat at the top, it’s obviously not designed to hold the neck in a tight grip - its purpose is to support the neck and protect from impact from below, as demonstrated in Mono’s own product video. It doesn’t really matter if the tuning keys touch the sides, that’s what the side padding is there for.
Even my five string Jazz moves around n the M80. The offset body doesn’t help (which is the other reason I pad the bottom with socks: to even out the offset a bit).
Yeah, I'm overthinking it I guess! And besides even if the flap was super tight, the block is soft enough that it still gives a bit side-to-side anyway.
I got curious, and tried this with my M80 and a P-bass. I was not able to get the bass out of position in this way by any amount of shaking or bouncing the bag around. The bass stayed securely in position at all times.
I don't doubt it - but it could be instructive to find out the actual cause of the problem. I'm on my second M80, and haven't experienced this with either one. There are three likely causes as I see it, either there was a design flaw of some sort in earlier versions that has since been corrected, there was a fault in manufacture, or the bass in question was a poor fit.
I think the current design is sound, and that the OP does not need to worry. If you look at the diagram below of how my P-bass sits inside the bag, you will see that this design makes it very difficult for the endpin to slip between the padding in the lid and the body, as this fits snugly inside the edge of the side padding, effectively locking the bass in when the lid is zipped up. The only way I think it could happen with this construction it if the bass was a little too large for the bag, pressing the lid or sides outwards and creating a gap, and even then, the endpin would have to be quite near to the front of the bass for it to do any damage.
It may be that the lid padding on earlier versions fit over the top of the side padding rather than inside the edge, making this possible, in which case the zipper wouldn't stand up to the strain put on it by the endpin, but it's not a problem on current versions.
I wouldn’t be so fast to say that there is no problem. It could also be fatigue of the material(s). My bag is 10 years old and has been used extensively. This problem developed end of last year. There were never any before that. Now don’t get me wrong, I still love it and use it. I just use a pad so the bass cannot slip off its designated position.
I haven’t used any of mine that long yet.
I do have a Vertigo which I’ve used for 9, and that still looks like new. 10 years of hard service is very respectable in any case, and after that long I guess some wear and tear must be factored in.
