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Monster Bass Cable?

#61
I have bought dozens of cables (various brands) in the last 19 years. Only one of those had a problem. It was a Monster Cable. I returned it and bought a Planet Waves- no problem.

Now, for the most part, I buy the Horizon cables that my local music store stocks. I have never had a problem with any of them.
 
#62
playibanez said:
I think you are contradicting yourself =/

You say you notice difference but advise against buying them?
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I'm saying that i notice the difference, i like the sound, i'm satisfied with the product. But i'm not advising everyone to go out and buy these cables. That's not contradictory, that's just me saying that they're great...but maybe not worth the price for everyone.
 
#64
Surprising to me that a lot of you have posted that you can hear no difference between cables. Clarity and openness in the mid-range is where a better cable shines. I personally don't care for Monster cable. In the higher quality cables I have tried, I think Monster, at least in the middle price range, sound constricted and muddy. Just an opinion.

People get nuts with this stuff. There are audiophiles that spend huge bucks on this stuff. Check out the prices on Tara cables. Oh baby. Hope you get kissed while you getting 'plucked".

I have been using Evidence Audio cables. They sound quite good.
I found a cable that sounds even better and are inexpensive. They are sold through Warrior instruments, neutric ends, very clear sounding and they cost $20. That's a winner at a great price. FWIW

When the band is cooking, does anyone hear slight improvements in nuance. Probably not. If you are playing a solo extended range bass ala Jeff Schmit, absolutely you can hear a difference! For other 99.9999999% of us, save your money.

In the end, good amplification, a good bass, lots of practice will make you sound great. You will be a lot better off not agonizing over micro-increments of improved sound quality costing beaucoup bucks. Go practice.
 
#66
Dbassmon said:
Surprising to me that a lot of you have posted that you can hear no difference between cables..
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I can, for sure, at least with passive PUps. That's not the question. Part 'A' of the question is how much do you have to spend to get a cable that doesn't have inferior resistance/capacitance/inductance specs, resulting in an inferior transfer function. The answer is about a dollar a foot. Part 'B' of the question is why does the Monster Bass cable sound different. The answer is because it does have inferior resistance/capacitance/inductance specs. :rollno:
And it's not a dollar a foot. :bawl:
 
#67
I guess the operative phrase would be "real difference" I hear a difference. Whether you qualify that as real, would be a judgment call. That is why various companies making high end cables find a market... someone believes the difference is real. If you hear no real difference, obviously these products have no meaningful value proposition for you. You are entitled to that position. Some else hears it and is willing to pay for it. Obviously, that's why Monster is still in business.

One place might be all be able to agree is that there is a real difference between players. Time spent practicing will potentially pay bigger dividends then an audiophile cable.
 
#68
Dbassmon said:
I guess the operative phrase would be "real difference" I hear a difference. Whether you qualify that as real, would be a judgment call. That is why various companies making high end cables find a market... someone believes the difference is real. If you hear no real difference, obviously these products have no meaningful value proposition for you. You are entitled to that position. Some else hears it and is willing to pay for it. Obviously, that's why Monster is still in business.

One place might be all be able to agree is that there is a real difference between players. Time spent practicing will potentially pay bigger dividends then a audiophile cable.
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I think it has been established that there will likely be an audible different in the Monster Bass cable, as it has higher capacitance than a standard audio cable.

This will result in reduced treble, and for passive pickups it will very likely change the voicing of the pickup.

It's like a poor mans resonant lowpass filter that you can't adjust.

You could get the same result if you install a capacitor selector in your bass.
 
#69
Yes, a real difference, as opposed to a trivial difference or even an imagined one.

Many of the "high-end" cable companies play into ego, the "of course I can hear a difference" bravado that some people have when confronted with the "if you can't hear a difference, then maybe your hearing/system/whatever isn't good enough" challenge.

I don't use what are commonly called "high-end" cables, although performancewise I'd say they're probably about as low in capacitance as any other good cables of comparable length.
 
#70
slyjoe said:
That should be illegal.

For a real kick, look at some of the so-called "audio hi-end" sites. Everything from wrapping your cables to stones and pebbles under your equipment - nuts.
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I'm jealous, I wish I had though of that. Taking money from deluded audiophiles sure would beat working for a living. :)

Hmm. So does that mean those $2000 Pear audio cables still need to be broken in? What a scam! :hiding:
 
#71
I bought one of the Monster bass cables when it first came out, and , yes, I did hear a difference when compared to the $9.98 Conquest cable I had been using. The Monster sounded darker than the Conquest, and as such, I did'nt like it. I still have it if anyone's interested!
 
#72
Really I don't think so much of the stuff advertise really matters for cables. I've played through a monster before and really just didn't hear anything special. Maybe if I were to swap out all the connectors, etc in my rig maybe. I just think a cable should be durable, quiet, and not add any sort of noise or trouble or something that could go wrong. Though I do use some of Butches cables from Bayou audio, fairly priced and does the job right, gives me no fuss.
 
#73
Bob Lee (QSC) said:
I don't use what are commonly called "high-end" cables, although performancewise I'd say they're probably about as low in capacitance as any other good cables of comparable length.
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This is a key post, and quite frankly much more helpful than the 'wink wink nod nod' sort of Monster cable bashing by all the 'in the know industry insiders'.

I'm not a Monster fan, nor a Monster hater:smug:

The key here is that virtually all cables sound the same. The ONLY exception I've ever heard is one particular Monster cable (out of the many, many models that they make), the Monster Bass cable that is the subject of this thread. Due, I assume, to higher capacitance, the Monster Bass does sound 'darker' than the other 20 or 30 cables I have experience with (that all sound identical).

While Monster's aggressive and over the top marketing is somewhat silly, their basic cables are reliable, moderately priced, nice warranty, spiffy look, and sound (shock) the same as everyone elses:D

I agree spending a ton of money on a Tara Labs or 'super high end Monster' is somewhat silly. However, the basic $30 or so Monster, George L, etc. cables are reliable, have good warranties, and are as good as anything else IMO and IME.
 
#78
What a 'monster' thread! :o Seriously, I'm not gonna tell y'all what kind of cables I use. I will tell you this. Our band was thinking of a name change a while back. One of the names that I came up with had the word 'Monster' in it. It was a great name. But then I realized that we might be hearing from the Monster Cable legal department. It wasn't worth the potential hassle. We kept our original name. I may or may not own a few Monster Cables, but I will never purchase any more of their products. So sue me! :spit::p:rollno:

M. M.
 

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