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most technically advanced bassist?
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This puts me in mind of Jeff Andrews. When I first saw the Mike Brecker band with Mike Stern, Jeff Andrews was the bass player. I thought he was the fastest, cleanest electric bassist I had seen up to that time (circa 1986). I later saw him play with Wayne Shorter and Mike Stern's groups, and came away with the same impression.jzucker said:
If by most advanced we mean "intricate and impossible to understand by most humans" then Manring surely gets the bell, with a special mention to the early Adrian Davison.
Otherwise it is meaningless to me.
Otherwise it is meaningless to me.
i can't belive no one mentioned Bill Dickens. I actually have a hard time beliveing he's human 
http://youtube.com/watch?v=bulBD4_aRKk&search=bill dickens
http://youtube.com/watch?v=bulBD4_aRKk&search=bill dickens
Steven Bailey hasnt been mentioned yet. He dominates the three finger plucking, artificial harms and can fret notes (on fretless though) with his 5 left fingers.
Muscle memory isnt something thats easy to build up. I have as much problem building up muscle speed and strength than I have understanding complex riffs. Both deserve, IMO, plenty of credit, and to acquire muscle speed and strength like Alex, all the Jazz players have alot of practicing to do. Sure they will understand the riffs and composition straight away, but I dont think they'll be able to play the song right after hearing it once. They'd have to practice for some hours to get it down, if not days to build up the muscle correctly.
Thats all I'm pointing out. The fact that Jazz players can easily figure out how to play this or that is besides the point.
Thats all I'm pointing out. The fact that Jazz players can easily figure out how to play this or that is besides the point.
vene-nemesis said:
+1
i can't believe i forgot about steve. His command of artificial harmonics is amazing.
zazz said:
The the song was performed up to speed during the filming of the video. The audio you hear is an instrumental version of a song from "The Wretched Spawn".
There are quite a few death metal bands that are doing things that are pretty impressive, speed-wise. It is a genre that is overlooked due to image and vocal style, and that's a shame.
Anyway, as I said before, I know that Alex would never claim to be even close to the skill level of the great jazz fusion players that are being mentioned here. Trust me on this one.
Godhead'sLament said:i can't belive no one mentioned Bill Dickens. I actually have a hard time beliveing he's human
http://youtube.com/watch?v=bulBD4_aRKk&search=bill dickens
I agree. If I had to pick one guy out there who has the best technique, it would have to be the Buddha.
I don't think anyone here has intimated that jazzers could play this stuff after hearing it once or twice! That's insane! The fact is though, they could still play it. Not so if the situations are reversed (or until proof is presented)!morf said:
With ease means what it means. Some people have good ear and can play stuff easily, others dont. You dont have to be a jazz player to have a good ear, and play jazz, or anything else, decently with enough practice.
When someone says Victor Wooten can play with ease what Webster plays, I have to disagree.
When someone says Victor Wooten can play with ease what Webster plays, I have to disagree.
I am deffinetly going to have to go with Nikki Sixx of Motley Crue. Just kidding, killer bassist character wise though.
I agree with a good ear, many can pick up a lot of things. And it's not limited to jazzers and I don't think anyone said that it was.morf said:
I can tell some of you metal guys here hold your genre and it bass players in high esteem and that's cool but let's be real about some cats talents! A guy like Wooten and quite a few others mentioned here are miles above even the best players and can do things many can only dream about. Metal basslines are really not that intricate but played extremely fast and in unison which is the whole point. Secondly, an argument can be made as to why can't they play it with 2 fingers only! So it doesn't matter how it's acheived just as long as it is played! Even though Wooten exhibits his signature style of playing doesn't mean he has abandoned fingerstyle. I've seen and heard Wooten play unison lines extremely fast with no problem using fingerstyle. I've seen and heard many many (non metal) bassists do the same thing. Bottom line is metal bassists are not the only ones who can play like that!
I've got the bass extremes stuff with Wooten but what are some other Steve Bailey recommendations?
On the subject of Steve Bailey, are my ears wrong when they tell me that his intonation leaves to be desired most of the time ?
I hear what your saying. He makes heavy use of harmonics and chords on a fretless bass! One of the things he does is slides notes off key as an effect along with a harmonic which he's able to slide as well. Very unique player. I've not heard anyone like him.Jazz Ad said:
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