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most technically advanced bassist?

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Jazz Ad said:
On the subject of Steve Bailey, are my ears wrong when they tell me that his intonation leaves to be desired most of the time ?
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I always sort of wondered that too, but he's a great player regardless. Maybe just a little slippery with the intonation...but how could he not be considering the fretboard gymnastics he attempts on a 6 string fretless with no lines?
 
#144
Matt Garrison is, IMO, hands down the most technically advanced bassist on the scene. Whether 4, 5, or 6- string, fretted, or fretless, electric bass or upright, the man has herculean chops, laser beam accurate intonation, the most innate sense of groove, and mind bending solo ability!
 
#149
It doesn't have to do with being technically advanced since we weren't discussing this matter.
It does however has to do with intonation, which is precisely what we were talking about.
May I invite you to read a post entirely before turning on your flamethrower ?
 
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Jazz Ad said:
It doesn't have to do with being technically advanced since we weren't discussing this matter.
It does however has to do with intonation, which is precisely what we were talking about.
May I invite you to read a post entirely before turning on your flamethrower ?
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May I invite you to read the subject of the thread? Also, did you miss the smiley? :)
 
#154
Grueber said:
Duh?:eyebrow:

i didn't ask the question
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My post was in reponse to yours.

The silliest notion at all is the one that it's cheating to use fretlines or that somehow guys who play without them are better. You may not have asked but the implication is there as soon as you mention someone not playing with fretlines as if that's a positive musical attribute. It's not. It's just a personal choice in the same way as a set of strings are.
 
#155
Not the most chopped up bassist in the world, yet, but I believe Job for a Cowboy has a wicked all around bassist right now. I just saw a show in Chicago with them, Necrophagist, Alarum, Arsis, and two other bands, but that bassist was going back and forth between fingerstyle, slapping / popping, and double thumping at shred speeds. I know only three talents are exhibited there, but with the natural ease at which he pulled them off, I'm sure he's got quite a few more tricks up his belt.


Moral of the story, just because nobody's singing, "We're so funky!", that doesn't mean that talented bassists aren't to be found.
 
#156
DWBass said:
I gotta put a plug in for John Patitucci! Anybody who can match lightning fast arpeggios, CLEANLY, with Chick Corea gets my vote!
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The new Bass Player magazine has some nice Patitucci lines in the Woodshed department. They say "It's frickin' hard" on the cover - but, as always, they give you the tab (the equivalent of the video game "cheat") so you can see that most of it is in only a couple of positions...of course it helps if you have a six string bass. Now if you're trying to play this on 4, then it's a Jaco experiment in the making...and if you do it, well then!!!!!:hyper:
 
#157
For some reason, I'm always ending up in a thread where Mr. Zucker has been. Don't argue with him...he knows!

How did this go from technique to lines vs. no lines on a fretless? Lines may help you, but where are the lines on a violin, an upright bass, etc. Jean Luc Ponty doesn't play with lines on a violin, Ron Carter doesn't use lines on an upright. And guess what - when they were learning, I'll bet ANYTHING they DIDN'T USE LINES!!

Jaco, Wooten, Stanley Clarke (Listen to "Hymn of the Seventh Galaxy"), Percy Jones with Brand X, and Lyle Mays of the Pat Metheny Group. It's technique that makes the music. The ability to play "cleanly" is the essense of what's required for a good studio recording, and an excellent base for soloing (then add knowing the notes, rhythms and musical ideas/statements to use). If you're just going out to turn the amps up to 10 and play, then who cares. If you do care about making music, and you can play well, but not cleanly, then you've got a lot more practicing to do.
 
#159
To JAZZ AD: it is possible that his intonation is not always 100% right, but you have to admit that his A.H. style and those fast triplets (up to 32th maybe 64th) on the higher register are techniques hard to build.


To Grueber: When you get to Steves fretting speed fretlines are pointless, firstly because at that speed you are just a muscle memory player and secondly because on fretless some notes dont intonate exactly over the fretline and that lead us to the first statement, muscle memory.
 
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