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Most versatile type of Jazz bass

IMHO I do think that heavier ash does add a bit of attack. Forget Jazz basses for a moment, just think of some pretty solid ash Musicmans there is a difference (again IMHO).
 
+1 all the way. If you get it too lightweight, things start to sound a bit thin. However, as you say, that 8.5 to 9.5 pound range is the perfect combination of comfort on the gig, and plenty of balls down low for me.

i completely agree that 8.5-9.5 lbs make great ones, but i have to disagree about the lighter ones sounding thin. IME, the lighter the bass (as long as it's its swamp ash or alder) actually are fuller sounding. to me, its the super heavy ones that get thin and brighter sounding. the trade-off being that they usually have more sustain.
 
Isn't the Geddy body Alder? So what was the difference
between this Alder/Maple/Rosewood bass, and the other
basses?

Yes, it is alder. I'm not sure anyone (or, at least, anyone with the level of hearing loss I've incurred as a result of playing thousands of gigs and attending thousands of shows) can make blanket statements about the tone of ash versus alder for bass bodies as the tone of any given piece of wood will have a fair amount of variance. I will say this, though ... the Geddy Lee body I got off of eBay along with the maple/rosewood Precision neck I have it paired with has plenty-o-bottom which, in tandem with the extra high end from the placement of the bridge pickup a 1/2" closer to the bridge and a set of D'Addario nickel rounds, makes for a very full sound.
 
i completely agree that 8.5-9.5 lbs make great ones, but i have to disagree about the lighter ones sounding thin. IME, the lighter the bass (as long as it's its swamp ash or alder) actually are fuller sounding. to me, its the super heavy ones that get thin and brighter sounding. the trade-off being that they usually have more sustain.

+1 The way I think of this is that weight, like most other components of the instrument, has an impact. Each piece of wood will sound different, and whether the 'difference' is better or worse for an individual player is totally up to the player.

I personally have played boat anchor basses that sound like dog, and shockingly light basses that absolutely kill.

I again, personally, would never consider a bass over 10 pounds, since I've found FANTASTIC sounding instruments that weigh less than that.

Virtually 100% of my peers (i.e., those who actually play regularly at a professional level) feel the same way. There is NO reason that a player can't find an 8 pound bass that would work fabulously. Of course, if you don't care about the weight, then it is all a moot point anyway... just find a bass you like!
 
aha! That's an interesting idea. A total 60's jazz with 70's
spacing. That sounds very versatile. And might even make the
B string more articulate.

This is one of the few combinations I have not ever tried. I would say that my Alleva Coppolo which is a true 60s spec bass has a B string that is perfect. The pickup may change it's voice a bit but plenty of makers have this nailed regardless of spacing.
 
Now that we've figured all this out, how long will it take for Fender to produce one that will be over-priced and suck?

Honestly who cares what Fender is doing:D

There are plenty of other bass manufacturers that can do this for you. Not only will they make a bass with everything to your specs but do it at a reasonable price.....

It's a great time to be a bass player
 
Now that we've figured all this out, how long will it take for Fender to produce one that will be over-priced and suck?

Oh.. I was so let down when I tried the new Fender mia dlx
J V. My older mia dlx J V, is such a killer other than the neck
profile. If they had just changed the neck profile, they were
looking at a total success. The new body size, pickups, and
weight, just don't make it for me. And for God's sake, don't
switch it to passive! Too bad. We could see a bunch of guys
buying the older ones and having the necks shaved a little.
 
aha! That's an interesting idea. A total 60's jazz with 70's
spacing. That sounds very versatile. And might even make the
B string more articulate.

My Carvin is a little like this...spacing is a bit south of 60's...I think it provides a much better slap sound than a regular 60's spacing, which I always found to be a little murky for slapping. You can dial back in some fingerstyle bite if you have a well voiced three band pre. My .02.
 
aha! That's an interesting idea. A total 60's jazz with 70's
spacing. That sounds very versatile. And might even make the
B string more articulate.


That's a spec I don't like very much. Kind of similar to the A-C RA models.. that early 70's thing with alder/maple and 70's placement. Very wide and smooth and pure, but to my ear, the worst of both worlds... not of the grind of a 70's ash/maple, and none of the growl of a 60's alder/RW.

IMO there... many dig that tone. The mirror image works much better (i.e., a 70's bass ash/maple bass with 60's spacing).
 
That's a spec I don't like very much. Kind of similar to the A-C RA models.. that early 70's thing with alder/maple and 70's placement. Very wide and smooth and pure, but to my ear, the worst of both worlds... not of the grind of a 70's ash/maple, and none of the growl of a 60's alder/RW.

IMO there... many dig that tone. The mirror image works much better (i.e., a 70's bass ash/maple bass with 60's spacing).

I dunno Ken, I love you but my 8.5lb ash/maple DJ4 wasn't that great...might be personal preference...I didn't feel it had a great/good slap sound and the fingerstyle sound felt a little weak compared to the alder basses. We might have to agree to disagree...