Moving a 610 cab up & downstairs without help?

[Pilgrim]

You're asking for injury if you buy it.

I'd use the money to sell the current cab and buy a neo cab. I have a Genz-Benz Neox 2x12 that handles 600W with rollers built in; it's 62 pounds, not much less than what you have, but it all counts. If nothing else, you wouldn't be bear hugging it and carrying it.

 

[fakeneckplate'65]

You're asking for injury if you buy it.

I'd use the money to sell the current cab and buy a neo cab. I have a Genz-Benz Neox 2x12 that handles 600W with rollers built in; it's 62 pounds, not much less than what you have, but it all counts. If nothing else, you wouldn't be bear hugging it and carrying it.

I have a Gallien Krueger NEO 410 currently that I use with my 700RBII, I just don't love the sound.

The 610HLF was going to be used with an Ampeg V4B that was to be purchased together..

was...

 

[Manticore]

Rather than ask if you can, perhaps it best to ask if you should? Then again, if you want such gear, you can move to a more convenient place.

 

[Michedelic]

Rehearsal space is in a basement & I don't own a garage, nor would I feel comfortable leaving the cab in one.

Vehicle is a Mazda 2 which is basically a Ford Festiva. It'd definitely fit.

I was thinking, if you had a van, just leave it in there, but yeah, that creates a whole new set of issues. If I were you, and keeping the uniform Ampeg aesthetics was a must, I’d look into getting two(or three, if the ohmage wasn’t a problem)2x1O’s. Go modular. More flexibility in moving them, how you stack them, vertical or horizontal(you don’t have to have your amp right on top), you could only take one if the gig calls for it, etc. I’ll bet that there would be plenty ‘peg 210’s around used, but there’s alway the other brands if those don’t cut it. Get a “Rocknroller” cart. What kind of guitar gear are you up against?

 

[Jeff Scott]

Well, it's much cheaper than hernia surgery!

His insurance should be able to cover most of the cost..................

 

[two fingers]

You gotta rig some rails that almost touch the casters. The bottleneck for going up and down stairs is the casters getting caught by the next tread.

Or you can try something like this. I have a smaller one that I have used successfully on smaller cabs. I've never tried a larger one like this on larger cabs. But if it works half as good as the smaller one it's great.

https://www.amazon.com/ROVSUN-Trans...00&hvtargid=aud-799727667774:pla-783040999583

 

[Skillet]

You might need to do what a lot of guys are doing, and pony up 7 to 9 hundred bucks for a high quality 2 x 12. Times they are a changing.

 

[jellymax]

will you be hauling that 610 up the stairs at 3am? have any neighbors?

 

[Bboopbennie]

Easy Peasy ~ Watch <

 

[Ggaa]

GK 115s. Light, use one or both.

 

[Arthur U. Poon]

Tomorrow I'm looking at a used Ampeg V4B & 610HLF cab. I'm a little concerned about moving the big cab & it could be unrealistic. I live in a four unit apartment, on the second floor & I will have to move it in & out for gigs.

There's about 5 or 6 steps, then a landing & 5 or 6 more. I know it weighs about 120#. I currently use a Gallien Krueger NEO 410 which apparently weighs around 70#. I usually just bear hug it & move it about.

Am I delusional thinking I can move this cab up & down stairs by myself? Do that casters & big handle help?

I would definitely ask for help when you’re moving it up or down a flight of stairs.

I just bought a Mesa PH610, which weighs around 135 pounds.

I can easily move it into and out of the rear of my wife’s SUV, and I
I’m pretty confident I can do the same with my pickup. It has rear skid rails, casters, and it’s handles are placed in good spots, IMO.

Still, when it comes to straits, I’ll ask for help. The same goes for most of the other cabinets that I own.

 

[lowendrv]

Sell or trade the 610 . Get a SVT212AV . I have yet to find a gig it didn't cover great . Two of them is Ampeg heaven . One 212 sounds pretty close to a SVT 810 with a V4B . They get loud also .
Ampeg SVT-212AV 2x12" 600-Watt Bass Cabinet

 

[BJMtz]

I have a 610HLF. I haven't had to move it up or down any stairs. Just up and down a foot/foot and a half stage and in/out of my SUV. The handle is pretty study though. I'd trust it going up and down stairs.

 

[TheReceder]

I use a 610hlf, I got a cover and to move it up steps I just roll it end over end. The band thinks I'm out of my mind when I tell them it's easier than if one of them helps me. Down steps... it slides just fine. (with me in front guiding it down.)

The one time someone tried to help me I nearly got killed when they dropped it.

I do have several other more portable rigs, but when the 610 is needed, I can suffer through it, and I'm an old fart.

 

[juggahnaught]

Used to own a 410HLF. Lugged it up and down some stairs sometimes.

With a 610? It's probably doable, sure....but I think you'll tire of it after a while. A few things to ask (might have missed it in the replies):

- How often do you gig?
- How late do you gig (and on what days)?
- Are your neighbors easygoing?
- Is there risk of stair damage?
- How narrow is the stairwell? (From experience...this is important. Watch the switchbacks.)
- Are you planning on using it for home practice? (Probably not since you're in an apartment.)

If you don't gig often....sure, maybe. If you gig once or twice a week...well, it's your choice. I know what my choice would be.

 

[juancaminos]

My music room used to be up a full flight of stairs and I gigged with an Acoustic 408 (4X15) or an Eden 410 cabinet. In a way the larger of the two was easier to move up and down the stairs but it tore the heck out of the stairs. As soon as my daughter moved out my music room moved downstairs into her old room.

You can do it! But it will get old...

 

[Fun Size Nick]

I think you're asking for trouble. I used to own a Mesa 610 that was around the same weight, and it was a royal pain trying to get it up and down any number of stairs by myself on the odd occasion that I couldn't enlist some help. Admittedly, I'm half your size, but it's not just the weight - the shape makes it awkward, and I'd almost say that taking it down the stairs is more dangerous than up because of the way that your back needs to bend if you're above it (it's very hard to keep the weight close to your body) and the risk of losing balance and having it land on you if you're carrying from below it. I think it presents you with a real risk of back injury, either from the cumulative effect of just one time of feeling tired and using bad technique. With a hand trolley with big wheels it's doable, but your neighbours might not appreciate the bang on each step when you're coming home from a show.

If your concern is tone, I'd strongly suggest you consider a Barefaced 410 or 610 as the voicing is quite Ampeggy and they're half the weight. Alternatively, go modular - a pair of 210s might give you the volume you need and be easier to haul.

 

[Thumpin6string]

I have a hard time understanding having such a large heavy cab when there are so many other great choices out there. My Epifani 410UL handles 1000 watts, weighs 56 pounds and will blow the furniture across a room. At 61, I would not move a 120 pound cab across a hall, let alone up a bunch of stairs. Just remember that even though you can do it now, you'll probably pay for it later in life. I know I did.

 

[OogieWaWa]

Manual stair climber dolly, under ninety bucks, 440 pound capacity. When I was a 135 pound kid in high school I used to deliver freezers to second floor apartments with one of these things. Use you legs, not your back. Edit: and when possible, use your brain and not your body.) Ktaxon 440 lb. Capacity All Terrain Stair Climbing Hand Truck Dolly | Wayfair

 

[JimmyM]

5 or 6 steps at a time? Portable ramp.