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Mozart 40 string crossings

Discussion in 'Orchestral Technique [DB]' started by Louie_Louie, Feb 4, 2016.


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  1. Louie_Louie

    Louie_Louie

    Nov 28, 2015
    Should I try to do all the string crossing with a down bow on the D string and an up bow on the G string ( which to me feels unnatural), or the other way around (up on D, down on G) which feels really nice. Doing it the second way, which feels easier, would require me to change something with the bow approaching it. My teacher suggested doing a double down on the last two eighth notes RIGHT BEFORE the string crossings start. I'm not in love with this and would love to hear a second opinion. I also heard someone saying to start all the eighth note runs before the string crossings on an up bow. Just want to know how some seasoned players approach this problem. Hopefully I was clear in my question.
     
  2. neilG

    neilG

    Jun 15, 2003
    Ventura, CA
    The piece is about a half hour long. Which passage are you talking about?
     
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  3. CSBBass

    CSBBass

    Sep 21, 2013
  4. Dbass926

    Dbass926

    Jun 20, 2005
    Philadelphia, PA
    I never enjoy taking a double down, so I try to use a double up on the 6th and 7th 8th notes in the measure, with a down bow on the 8th 8th note. This allows me to play the string crossings with up bows on the beat.

    Give it a shot and let us know.
     
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  5. robobass

    robobass

    Aug 1, 2005
    Cologne, Germany
    Private Inventor - Bass Capos
    That's what I prefer as well. Wasn't allowed to do it this way in my last job, though. The basses had to do everything exactly like the cellos, who mostly had to follow the upper strings. That was the culture of the orchestra, but I imagine many orchestras aren't so strict. If you're playing an audition, play it the way you prefer, but don't be surprised if they ask you to do it again down up down up.
     
  6. Andrew Chilcote

    Andrew Chilcote

    Mar 20, 2007
    I prefer playing the whole passage "backwards" beginning with an up bow on the E-flat in measure 191. If you prefer to begin down bow, I'd suggest doing a double up bow on the last B-flat in 192 and the first note of 193 rather than a double down bow. To get out of the backwards bowing before the whole note in 198, I do a double up on the last two notes of 197.
     
  7. bejoyous

    bejoyous

    Oct 23, 2005
    London, Ontario
    I went through that dilemma, as well. I find it easier to just play it down up the whole way now.
     
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  8. Louie_Louie

    Louie_Louie

    Nov 28, 2015
    Thanks for the Replies, lot of good stuff to consider. I've tried these things and I think i'm going to go with doing the string crossings down up, (for this audition anyway). Does anyone have any practice tips for playing string crossings down on the D and up on the G? Any exercises that you love and would like to share?
     

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