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Double Bass Murder, then burn, your Real Book...

#21
Keith, there is a book available called Charles Mingus More Than A Fake Book.

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The one I had for school got heavier from all the pencil corrections done to it.

Gained maybe a few extra ounces guaranteed.

I also remember one combo , the teacher had us tear out the "standard" from the book and throw it in the garbage....then handed us his version. Haha
 
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vilshofen said:
Keith, all, you could join Scribd and download the Mingus book, as well as a gazillion others.

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Call me old fashioned, but squinting at a laptop or a tablet with my bad eyesight isn’t very fun for me these days; yet it’s so hard to find actual instructional books these days. That’s why I bought several from one of the TB forums on here before Thanksgiving.
 
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vilshofen said:
Sorry, Carl, I stand corrected. Thanks for that. Thought the site was more legit.
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They are like the YouTube of published material. All they have to do is say “we TRY to take down copyrighted material as soon as we’re aware of it” and they’re legally safe, Meanwhile, the money pours in, and not to the authors of the material that’s uploaded without permission.

*steps off soapbox*
 
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I've written this before, but IMO, any chart - RB old, RB new, composer's - is great for sitting down and listening to a particular performance and comparing the difference because it gives you, potentially, a headstart on transcribing the performance. And, if you're not doing that, I don't know how you can memorize the tune. Regardless, I find it easier to hear "uh, that's not right" than transcribing from scratch.
And, I hate to be a purist, but much of the time, the RB's miss the artistry of the recording, whether that's voicings, or incorrect bass lines.
The RB 5 version of Herbie's Dolphin Dance is a good example. I cringe every time a BL insists on those changes; not so much because they're wrong - they are - but because they're significantly inferior to what Herbie played.
 
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The sheer tonnage of the things I do on any given gig that are significantly inferior to what Herbie Hancock does could stop a team of oxen in its tracks. That said, all of these books are to me just the working signposts that I need as a jobbing musician. Real Books, the Colorado book, the old Montreal book (long lost and still my favourite) just get me in the door with someplace to start that is, usually, something like the same place as everyone else. The rest is the fun part! And the hard work.
 
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Carl Hillman said:
They are like the YouTube of published material. All they have to do is say “we TRY to take down copyrighted material as soon as we’re aware of it” and they’re legally safe, Meanwhile, the money pours in, and not to the authors of the material that’s uploaded without permission.
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Scribd also offers a free trial period, so you can sign up for 30 days, download everything you need and then quit!!! But the real joke is you can sign up for free trials over and over. I've done it myself to get transcriptions that other players have posted when I was in a bind to learn a new song for a gig the next day.

I did see yesterday that the Mingus book was there and I thought about it for about a second before deciding I could afford to spend $20 for it instead.
 
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Tom Lane said:
I've written this before, but IMO, any chart - RB old, RB new, composer's - is great for sitting down and listening to a particular performance and comparing the difference because it gives you, potentially, a headstart on transcribing the performance. And, if you're not doing that, I don't know how you can memorize the tune. Regardless, I find it easier to hear "uh, that's not right" than transcribing from scratch.
And, I hate to be a purist, but much of the time, the RB's miss the artistry of the recording, whether that's voicings, or incorrect bass lines.
The RB 5 version of Herbie's Dolphin Dance is a good example. I cringe every time a BL insists on those changes; not so much because they're wrong - they are - but because they're significantly inferior to what Herbie played.
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Like I previously said. They oversimplify chords its almost laughable, your right to cringe at some BL that insist on the "wrong changes, just shows they never "listened" to the tune.
 
#35
The Real Books serve a purpose. Certainly there is no substitute for taking the time to transcribe every tune accurately, but it serves as a template for playing. It's almost impossible to find a group of musicians with the time and interest to do that for every song the group wants to play (never mind different people may not come up with the same transcription).
 
#39
Good on ya, but you still missed the split note in bar 7 where the tenor and alto play two different interpretations of the line and land on one note a half step apart. I always include that, maybe just out of sheer cussedness.
 
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