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Music Man basses

you spend $1500 on a USED bass and you will get something REALLY great.
You wait for that Stringray used and you can save some real $$. I just picked up a Sterling H for $1000 in perfect condition here on TB.
I'd agree with that, but I'd put that $1500 on a good used Roscoe, there are several in the classifieds as we type. For $1500 you can get a 'lifetime' bass instead of something you want to upgrade from a year from now.

I just settled on a $1700 *gorgeous* Pedulla from a TB member... so yeah - $1500 CAN be a lot of scrilla for a bass IF you buy used.
 
Yup - GC sells lots of these, and GC does a famously bad job of setting up instruments.

That said - Stingrays ARE heavy. Maybe that's part of the gripe? I know that my Stirling seems to play itself. Love it!

Heavy they are! Man, I bought my first one new in 1978. That was also my first bass guitar. It made me think all basses were that heavy.
 
I've always wanted this, despite the weight.
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you spend $1500 on a USED bass and you will get something REALLY great.
You wait for that Stringray used and you can save some real $$. I just picked up a Sterling H for $1000 in perfect condition here on TB.

I just settled on a $1700 *gorgeous* Pedulla from a TB member... so yeah - $1500 CAN be a lot of scrilla for a bass IF you buy used.

$1500 will buy you about 1.5 Stingrays used. Or a Stingray plus a Warwick Corvette Standard, on a good week.

It'd also buy you a used Spector Euro 4 or 5 string.

Spend some time here and on your local Craigslist before you spend that on a new bass.

Also, pretty sure Guitar Center is still closing out new Stingrays; I know I've seen club members with NBD posts mention they got a Classic 4 for under $1000.
 
I have a Stingray 5 and really like it. I have three other basses I use and the SR5 is distinct. While I do not like the tone of it over my jazz basses, it cuts thru the band mix the best and is a better working bass than the others. I also have the single H model and it plays like a dream (and is 10 pounds).

My advice: buy one and make it work.
 
Can definitely play jazz on a Stingray. The two pickup models (HH or HS) give you more of a traditional jazz sound but allowing you to select two single coils. And of course you don't lose any of the classic Stingray sound when you solo the rear humbucker.

Wish I could find Classics for under $1k here! Would love to pick up a Classic 5 one day.
 
I'm considering buying a Music Man Stingray 4HH as my first serious bass (I'm 16) and pretty convinced that I should spend 15 hundred on a guitar because it's got it all. But a couple questions still boggle me.

1st I don't see as much on the music scene, considering it's just as good as fender and probably even better than anything out there.

2nd could you play it in jazz? it's the best funk machine hands down for slapping and finger playing with that signature thump, but could you play anything beyond that on a machine that just wants to shoot solid funk bullets? better phrased, is it suited for a maturer way of playing be it jazz or anything else that necessitates a thorough knowledge of music? silly question since you could play any genre on almost any bass (almost), but the Stingray doesn't exactly say "hey let's chill the hell out and play some jazz", it's aggressive and punchy by nature, and bound to that signature "thump" (really don't know what to call it else than "thump")

3rd is it really worth spending that much on an instrument? would i be better off on some mexican jazz bass (way cheaper)?

I plan on studying music and particularly the bass and well I want to have a high end instrument and not keep upgrading from bass to bass one step at a time and end up spending way more than 15 hundred (economically speaking). I might be young and inexperienced and whatever else you may say but I'm in love with music and that low end register which is often overlooked. So help a rookie out.

Sounds like you have a good grasp of what you want. Saving up and spending the extra $$ to buy the right instrument for you to keep in your collection long term is great. A little pride of ownership in knowing you've worked hard and saved to buy it doesn't hurt either. Too many people buy and sell basses like they change their socks and never really settle on something long term. But to each their own I guess. If you are 16 and will be playing for decades to come, my recommendation would be get yourself a Musicman you really like and down the road a Jazz and a P bass. These are 3 essential must have basses in your collection down the road. The Jazz probably being the overall most versatile.
 
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absolutly love my stingray 4H. Nice amount of options for the tone, its served me well in any musical endevor.

as far as dropping 1500 on an instrument goes, i got mine used for 900 and its in perfect condition intonation wise. only thing that was off about it was a tiny scratch in the paint on the body, but if you can get past aesthetic, you can score a stingray in great condition for a nice price.

I went for the used because i didn't know if it would be something i'd REALLY dig on, but after playing mine for 2 years, I am certainly satisfied with my purchase. I'd totally be fine dropping some serious change on a fresh one in the future. New rig comes first for me though ;)
 
I'm a self taught slapper (since my teacher says I'm not ready for this specific type of playing whatever) and picked up most my technique from guys like Les Claypool, Marcus Miller and all the other geniuses that I can"t recall their names because human brain, so I slap exclusively on the space where the neck and strings meet, and sometimes even on the neck for that fast thumb playing. I am aware that some prefer the larry graham approach but that's just not my cup of tea consdering the string tension[/QUOTE.]

Well you should get on popping and slapping on an HH Stingray just fine.

I hear the guys saying people need a Jazz and Precision in their collection. I can understand that view but have to say apart from a Bongo, I only have Stingrays in my collection and have never owned a Precision or Jazz in around 40 yrs of playing - I've played loads of them though.
 
Many people like ordering new basses - there are advantages like getting the spec and colour you want - and rather like a new car there's nothing quite like the experience of opening the case for the first time and playing a brand new instrument. You're in good company as well - when Marcus Miller was looking to get a Jazz, he ignored everyone advising him to buy a pre CBS - he wanted a brand new one and bought it! There is a financial penalty but you may find the used value and the price you pay close up over a period of time - three of my basses are worth more now than when they were new!!
 
absolutly love my stingray 4H. Nice amount of options for the tone, its served me well in any musical endevor.

as far as dropping 1500 on an instrument goes, i got mine used for 900 and its in perfect condition intonation wise. only thing that was off about it was a tiny scratch in the paint on the body, but if you can get past aesthetic, you can score a stingray in great condition for a nice price.

I went for the used because i didn't know if it would be something i'd REALLY dig on, but after playing mine for 2 years, I am certainly satisfied with my purchase. I'd totally be fine dropping some serious change on a fresh one in the future. New rig comes first for me though ;)

Used, used, used - PREACH IT, brother!
 
I'm considering buying a Music Man Stingray 4HH as my first serious bass (I'm 16) and pretty convinced that I should spend 15 hundred on a guitar because it's got it all. But a couple questions still boggle me.

1st I don't see as much on the music scene, considering it's just as good as fender and probably even better than anything out there.

2nd could you play it in jazz? it's the best funk machine hands down for slapping and finger playing with that signature thump, but could you play anything beyond that on a machine that just wants to shoot solid funk bullets? better phrased, is it suited for a maturer way of playing be it jazz or anything else that necessitates a thorough knowledge of music? silly question since you could play any genre on almost any bass (almost), but the Stingray doesn't exactly say "hey let's chill the hell out and play some jazz", it's aggressive and punchy by nature, and bound to that signature "thump" (really don't know what to call it else than "thump")

3rd is it really worth spending that much on an instrument? would i be better off on some mexican jazz bass (way cheaper)?

I plan on studying music and particularly the bass and well I want to have a high end instrument and not keep upgrading from bass to bass one step at a time and end up spending way more than 15 hundred (economically speaking). I might be young and inexperienced and whatever else you may say but I'm in love with music and that low end register which is often overlooked. So help a rookie out.


1. Yes, the Stingray HH would be a good all round choice. It's going to give you several sounds which will be adaptable for many situations, but at the end of the day there's no substitute for actually going round the stores and specialist dealers and actually playing the instruments. It's the best way to find the bass for you. I recently drove a 250 mile round trip in the summer and bought a nearly new Classic Series MM Sabre. I only made the deal because as soon as I played it (plugged and unplugged), I loved the transmission of vibrations through it and how it felt in my hands. That's how you tell which bass is for you.

There are always better basses out there, though. If we're talking mass produced, yes a Ray is pretty much the nicest thing out there, but it's all down to individual opinion. There are other great sounding instruments like Status-Graphite, Human-Base, Sadowsky, Mike Lull in the more specialised fields, but they are all admittedly a little more money than you're looking at.

2. Yes, you can use a HH for Jazz. It's the most versatile pickup configuration. You can move your right hand over the end of the fingerboard and get a nice double bass style effect if you're running the neck pickup alone and you can use the full range of the bass for a more pointed sparkling sound, even backing off the treble and soloing the bridge pickup for solos will sound good.

One feature I'd personally be looking for in a jazz instrument is easy access to the upper registers - That and possibly a 24 fret neck (a really useful feature for higher end playing.)

3. Speaking as a professional musician, it's worth spending as much as you can on the RIGHT instrument for you. It pays off in the end. My main bass has been with me since new and even though it's a high end Status bass, it's only just recently been back to the maker for a quick service, seven years after it's original purchase. At the end of the day, you get what you pay for. Yes, there's always the used market too, but I'd always go for the best you can afford at any given time.

Good luck with your ambition of becoming a professional bass player - It's a good life all in all :)
 

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