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My bass sounds dead, all the time.

Bypassing the tone control can give huge unbridled treble.

Something was off in the wiring and/or components way early or happened during all those changes. Now he could have someone who is good at this, trace and find the culprit.

:)The furnace filter was clogged. We took it out and threw it away. :)
Did you put another one in?
What? Why and have it clog again? :)

No snark just humor! In these days Covid has dented our funny bones so I'm saying this. It's in jest!
 
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Well, @Dave Kulik , looks like you may want to edit your thread title to include the word "Solved", or perhaps update your opening post with that info. Apparently half of TalkBass is too lazy to actually read.....

Musicians gonna musician...

OP... didn't you know that the tone is all in your fingers? :roflmao: Glad you got'er fixed up.
 
Quick question, I have a 90's P bass. No matter what strings, pickups and pots I put in this thing it just sounds "dull". For pickups I have put in Duncan SPB 3 (current), spb4, dimarzio model p, emg p, emg px, geezer p. And they all sound like poop. I put all those pickups in other basses and sound amazing. I have also used 250k and 500k pots in any combination. 25k for the active. I have also tried nickel, SS, coated, cobalt and kryptonite lol. It has a maple jazz neck, hipshot tuners and a gotoh bridge. Can a bass body just create a constant dead, no treble bass tone?
Actualy i like no treable sound of bass. Here is example of my bass tone: Warwick Vampyre Dark Lord BO old version made in Germany

This very old video. Basically nowdays my sound is even more dull and has not treable and almost no mids at all.

It sounds very good only in live performance and on high quality speakers with subwoofer or high quality headphones. However unfortionaly on cell phones, laptops and other crap most likly it will sound like crap or you will even hear nothing ;)
 
Unplugged it's loud and very resonant. I might just do that or just buy an unfinished ash body. I don't know. These quarter pounders should be bright and punchy. Yet everything I throw in it sounds like a jamerson bass with flats and foam under the bridge.

I have had a cable (my favorite one at the time) be my worst enemy. With guitar, it was great. But when I plugged in into my bass rig it sounded terrible. I thought my particular bass was a dud or my amp was having issues. I went to a friends house to jam. I brought my rig. For one song, i plugged into their bass rig and my bass came alive. I pulled plug out of his amp and plugged into mine and my tone was there. I gave that cable to a guitar player friend and told him to only use as backup. No issues since.
 
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Quick question, I have a 90's P bass. No matter what strings, pickups and pots I put in this thing it just sounds "dull". For pickups I have put in Duncan SPB 3 (current), spb4, dimarzio model p, emg p, emg px, geezer p. And they all sound like poop. I put all those pickups in other basses and sound amazing. I have also used 250k and 500k pots in any combination. 25k for the active. I have also tried nickel, SS, coated, cobalt and kryptonite lol. It has a maple jazz neck, hipshot tuners and a gotoh bridge. Can a bass body just create a constant dead, no treble bass tone?
I bought a $3000 Tobias that was exactly the same.
 
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I achieved what I needed to. I took advice and wired the pickup straight to the output jack and PERFECT!!! It had the punch and treble I was missing. I soldered in a 250k volume pot and left the tone out of the circuit altogether. Problem solved. Thank you for all the help!! This thing is a beast now.
Way to go, Dave! Your sharing has brought out a lot of good advice here and your perseverance will help a lot of others with similar issues. Thanks.
 
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Try adjusting your truss rod a tiny bit to see if it is the cause of vibration which would negate the resonance of the wood. You may also want to look at the fingerboard to see if it in not glued correctly to the neck. Voids in the glue can create dead spots all over the neck. Try a set of D'Addario Pro Steel strings. When you put them on, tune the bass up and then once it is holding tune, crush the string down over the bridge saddle and nut to create a slight kink in the core. It will wake up the string and it will become much more resonant. Sounds crazy, but it works. I have been a luthier for 40 years. Your pickup may be over magnetized. That can stop the strings from vibrating correctly. It can be corrected by smacking the pole pieces with a high powered magnet. You also may want to see what the resistance is on your pickup. If it is super high, you will be losing clarity. That is why early Fenders sound so much better. They have fewer pickup windings and thus more clarity. On a '59 Precision pickup, they are usually 6-7 ohms. Many modern pickups can be overwound to 11-12 ohms which makes them sound dark.
 
Try adjusting your truss rod a tiny bit to see if it is the cause of vibration which would negate the resonance of the wood. You may also want to look at the fingerboard to see if it in not glued correctly to the neck. Voids in the glue can create dead spots all over the neck. Try a set of D'Addario Pro Steel strings. When you put them on, tune the bass up and then once it is holding tune, crush the string down over the bridge saddle and nut to create a slight kink in the core. It will wake up the string and it will become much more resonant. Sounds crazy, but it works. I have been a luthier for 40 years. Your pickup may be over magnetized. That can stop the strings from vibrating correctly. It can be corrected by smacking the pole pieces with a high powered magnet. You also may want to see what the resistance is on your pickup. If it is super high, you will be losing clarity. That is why early Fenders sound so much better. They have fewer pickup windings and thus more clarity. On a '59 Precision pickup, they are usually 6-7 ohms. Many modern pickups can be overwound to 11-12 ohms which makes them sound dark.
Wow! Very interesting tips! How do you "crush the string down..."? Use pliers? Hammer? Fingers?
 
It's possessed. Kill it with fire. Or sell it to a blues bass player.

...or call Mirran & Karrus for a house call...
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Unplugged it's loud and very resonant. I might just do that or just buy an unfinished ash body. I don't know. These quarter pounders should be bright and punchy. Yet everything I throw in it sounds like a jamerson bass with flats and foam under the bridge.


Quick thought - how high are your pickups set?

on the other hand, if it resonates ok unplugged, I would have a look at your tone pot - it's not reversed is it? Is it still dull when you turn the tone to zero? Is the wiring of it screwed so that the tone 'off' is always in circuit?
 
Wow! Very interesting tips! How do you "crush the string down..."? Use pliers? Hammer? Fingers?

Just use your fingers to crimp the string over the saddle or nut. Use some force, but be careful at the nut. You want to make sure the crimp is at the edge of the nut where it hits the fingerboard. If you have a bone nut, be careful not to push too hard as you may crack the bone...especially on the E side. The metal bridge saddles will be fine, so crimp hard there. You may also find you will have to raise your bridge saddles a bit since the string will sit slightly lower than before. If you have an extremely low nut, do not crimp at the nut.
 
Perception is just that, it's not truth.

In 1996 bought a '66'Fender P bass from Dan Lakin. It sounded "Dead" no matter what. I did a few gigs and recorded a project with it then traded it back with cash to him for 55-94. A month later the mixes came back from the project and HOLY SMOKES the bass sounded fantastic on the recordings! Live and learn.
 
How about wrong wiring? Last Bass I bought had the most stupid wiring by previous owner. I fixed that and Bass came back to life.

Same happened to me. I had a bad pot and when I got it back it sounded like....... it had no bite and punch. Sounded ok I guess but not my bass I took in. Easy fix in my case. Good luck or as somewhere above , find it a new home.
 
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After years of hearing P Basses do heroic things in the hands of the masters and not being able to come close to anything like that with the P basses that were available to me, I quit worrying about it and used other basses instead, which I am fine with.

I have an old L-2000 strung with flatwounds and when I solo the neck pickup in parallel mode with the preamp off, I get the chocolate burp of my dreams. Or close to it.

I know that there are magical P basses out there. I've just never come across one. If I ever get a chance to play one, I'll enjoy it. But in the meantime, I'm happier using a substitute than struggling with an uninspiring example of the real thing.
 
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