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My Dirt Bender - Another Jounal

One thing that does absolutely not happen with the gain past 10 o'clock is note separation.
When you go for a power chord (root, fifth, octave), and then play alternating patterns where you do the root first as a solo note, then play the fifth and octave as a double stop, the two sound nearly identical - the Metal Zone adds that many harmonics and also cuts off that much definition.
However, the EQ is indeed incredibly powerful to shape the drive.
 
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So... does all this highly unexpected fun mean you may keep it around, rather than bin it off? And if so, does that mean we can truly still consider you a sniffer of corks? Because I can't see Boss being considered a cork-sniffing vintage, let alone the much-maligned Metal Zone (Waza or not)! I worry this is a slippery slope that will require careful navigation, sir...
 
So... does all this highly unexpected fun mean you may keep it around, rather than bin it off? And if so, does that mean we can truly still consider you a sniffer of corks? Because I can't see Boss being considered a cork-sniffing vintage, let alone the much-maligned Metal Zone (Waza or not)! I worry this is a slippery slope that will require careful navigation, sir...
Too early to say anything. It really depends on long term testing of the Meatsmoke, because I don't really see the need for more than one hilarious gain pedal. Let's just say it's already a huge thing that I'm not sure whether or not to keep it.

I was pretty sure that it'll be a "Plug it in, row across the lake once or twice and then sell it off" thing.
 
So... does all this highly unexpected fun mean you may keep it around, rather than bin it off? And if so, does that mean we can truly still consider you a sniffer of corks? Because I can't see Boss being considered a cork-sniffing vintage, let alone the much-maligned Metal Zone (Waza or not)! I worry this is a slippery slope that will require careful navigation, sir...

Now for a real answer:
Even the corksniffiest cork sniffers can't really sniff cork all day.
I would consider Boss pedals in general boxed wine,
while the Waza stuff is ... bottled stuff with a screw-on top?

However, if all you ever drink is vintage St. Émillions and Chateau Lafite Rothschilds, that would be all you know, and therefore, just a basic drink.
You gotta work yourself through the good, the mediocre AND the bad to truly appreciate the great.
 
One thing that does absolutely not happen with the gain past 10 o'clock is note separation.
When you go for a power chord (root, fifth, octave), and then play alternating patterns where you do the root first as a solo note, then play the fifth and octave as a double stop, the two sound nearly identical - the Metal Zone adds that many harmonics and also cuts off that much definition.
However, the EQ is indeed incredibly powerful to shape the drive.
So as I mentioned previously in this thread, when you first revealed you had bought a Waza Metal Zone, and intended to test it out, I am curious to which mode you prefer, the original standard mode, or the new Waza custom mode?
 
So as I mentioned previously in this thread, when you first revealed you had bought a Waza Metal Zone, and intended to test it out, I am curious to which mode you prefer, the original standard mode, or the new Waza custom mode?
Tough question, and I omitted the answer because I can't really give it yet.

When I have it set in a nice way and flip the switch, it sounds bad, which works both in C and S postition.
 
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I got a new toy based on the review in this thread. I am absolutely blown away at the sheer range of sounds this thing can do. Easily the best overall dirt pedal I have ever had the pleasure of playing through
 
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I got a new toy based on the review in this thread. I am absolutely blown away at the sheer range of sounds this thing can do. Easily the best overall dirt pedal I have ever had the pleasure of playing through
Yeah Piggy and Mini are incredible in that regard. There's not just one sweet spot, there are many of them.
 
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I got a new toy based on the review in this thread. I am absolutely blown away at the sheer range of sounds this thing can do. Easily the best overall dirt pedal I have ever had the pleasure of playing through
I only heard about this brand when I started looking for Rusty B / Traynor circuit and ended up founding a used "Elephant", it is a fantastic build (if you are into these kind of tones).
 

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The Dirty Little Secret is quite a lot to take in.
I don't think I ever tried a slice of Catalinbread before, so this is all new.
It's a bit smaller than your standard 1590 shape and has side jacks. It's fairly light, too.

The complexity comes from the switch on the inside, that lets you choose if you wanna mimic the Marshall Super Lead or the Super Bass.
I will have to admit at this point that guitar amps are, to me, things for guitar players. I have absolutely no clue about the Marshall lineup and which amp does what. I thought they are all named JCM800, but apparently, there are several different models of them. They all look the same to me. I think I'm gonna remain ignorant about that stuff and just soldier on. There's another hidden knob inside the pedal, one I did not spot upon inspection of the PCB, but found upon inspection of the manual. It's named Presence and requires a super small screw driver that I'll have to bring from the office tomorrow. This knob controls the frequency response upwards of 3k and since I bought a second hand unit, I have no clue where mine is set, default is noon.

That said, I set to plugging it in and plonking around.
First impression: Yet again, I picked a pedal that does some amp like, organic sound. Nearly three in a row now, with the Meatsmoke and the Joyo OJ, but the Metal Zone did not allow the hattrick - which was actually only because the shipping used by the DLS seller was super slow. The Metal Zone should have arrived two days after the DLS, had both sellers used the same service.
Organic. A bit darker than the Meatsmoke, and man, can it roar in anger. I did not know how to start properly, so I simply set everything to noon and started twisting knobs. Quickly figuring out how the EQ works ... twisting more knobs, and five minutes later, I'm none the wiser.
I mean, turning treble up makes the signal have more treble content. Is it boost only? Cut only? I really sat in front of this thing for a solid ten minutes and then fired up the Tone Stack Calculator and looked at the Marshall tone stack. There seems to be no such thing as a flat setting and it's all rather confusing, so I simply twisted knobs until I found something I liked. Then I looked inside to see which setting I'm in and it was set to Super Lead. I flipped over to Super Bass and the first thing I noticed was that the gain dropped. In SL mode, the signal has a fair amount of grit even with the gain knob at zero, in SB mode it's nearly clean. The manual says that the Super Lead amp is cutting bass, but the pedal does not seem to follow that closely, because I could not really attest that mode a neutered low end at all.
SL has more of a singing distortion sound, with more momentum to it, while the SB mode has more of a push back, but both act sensitive to the touch.

The smell of that tone is a bit on the brown side of things. You get notes of warm earth after a summer rain, a fallen tree in an autumn wood, and coffee grounds from a Bialetti after you poured the shot. All the metal you can find is so rusty, it crumbles when you hit it with a hammer. While it has some bite, it's like being bitten by a horse: Solid muscle behind the jaws, but all molars and no canines.

Things to investigate further:

-What happens with the presence knob when you have a proper tool to operate it? Will it get less dark and file its teeth to needle sharp points?

-The pedal is actually capable of operating at up to 18V. The manual claims it gets a different response, and of course more headroom. I've not tried anything but 9V yet.
 
The Dirty Little Secret is quite a lot to take in.
I don't think I ever tried a slice of Catalinbread before, so this is all new.
It's a bit smaller than your standard 1590 shape and has side jacks. It's fairly light, too.

The complexity comes from the switch on the inside, that lets you choose if you wanna mimic the Marshall Super Lead or the Super Bass.
I will have to admit at this point that guitar amps are, to me, things for guitar players. I have absolutely no clue about the Marshall lineup and which amp does what. I thought they are all named JCM800, but apparently, there are several different models of them. They all look the same to me. I think I'm gonna remain ignorant about that stuff and just soldier on. There's another hidden knob inside the pedal, one I did not spot upon inspection of the PCB, but found upon inspection of the manual. It's named Presence and requires a super small screw driver that I'll have to bring from the office tomorrow. This knob controls the frequency response upwards of 3k and since I bought a second hand unit, I have no clue where mine is set, default is noon.

That said, I set to plugging it in and plonking around.
First impression: Yet again, I picked a pedal that does some amp like, organic sound. Nearly three in a row now, with the Meatsmoke and the Joyo OJ, but the Metal Zone did not allow the hattrick - which was actually only because the shipping used by the DLS seller was super slow. The Metal Zone should have arrived two days after the DLS, had both sellers used the same service.
Organic. A bit darker than the Meatsmoke, and man, can it roar in anger. I did not know how to start properly, so I simply set everything to noon and started twisting knobs. Quickly figuring out how the EQ works ... twisting more knobs, and five minutes later, I'm none the wiser.
I mean, turning treble up makes the signal have more treble content. Is it boost only? Cut only? I really sat in front of this thing for a solid ten minutes and then fired up the Tone Stack Calculator and looked at the Marshall tone stack. There seems to be no such thing as a flat setting and it's all rather confusing, so I simply twisted knobs until I found something I liked. Then I looked inside to see which setting I'm in and it was set to Super Lead. I flipped over to Super Bass and the first thing I noticed was that the gain dropped. In SL mode, the signal has a fair amount of grit even with the gain knob at zero, in SB mode it's nearly clean. The manual says that the Super Lead amp is cutting bass, but the pedal does not seem to follow that closely, because I could not really attest that mode a neutered low end at all.
SL has more of a singing distortion sound, with more momentum to it, while the SB mode has more of a push back, but both act sensitive to the touch.

The smell of that tone is a bit on the brown side of things. You get notes of warm earth after a summer rain, a fallen tree in an autumn wood, and coffee grounds from a Bialetti after you poured the shot. All the metal you can find is so rusty, it crumbles when you hit it with a hammer. While it has some bite, it's like being bitten by a horse: Solid muscle behind the jaws, but all molars and no canines.

Things to investigate further:

-What happens with the presence knob when you have a proper tool to operate it? Will it get less dark and file its teeth to needle sharp points?

-The pedal is actually capable of operating at up to 18V. The manual claims it gets a different response, and of course more headroom. I've not tried anything but 9V yet.
“All molars …”. OK, I definitely know what this sounds like now 😁. I’m only half kidding.
 
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I got a new toy based on the review in this thread. I am absolutely blown away at the sheer range of sounds this thing can do. Easily the best overall dirt pedal I have ever had the pleasure of playing through

Yeah Piggy and Mini are incredible in that regard. There's not just one sweet spot, there are many of them.

I’ve been going through my own journey based on a lot of the stuff in this thread, and I’ve got a Piggy on order - very excited for that one to arrive.

The real winner so far is the JPTR Jive - with the top diode engaged I’m able to get a nice raspiness when I dig in - very transparent- it still sounds like my bass, just brighter with a bit of grit. A perfect pair for my mellow clean tone. With no diodes it’s still very nice, and could easily be an always on sweetener.
 
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I’ve been going through my own journey based on a lot of the stuff in this thread, and I’ve got a Piggy on order - very excited for that one to arrive.

The real winner so far is the JPTR Jive - with the top diode engaged I’m able to get a nice raspiness when I dig in - very transparent- it still sounds like my bass, just brighter with a bit of grit. A perfect pair for my mellow clean tone. With no diodes it’s still very nice, and could easily be an always on sweetener.
Just a fair warning from my experience. Tracking was non-existent on my order and the pedal took quite a while to arrive. 100% worth it and I can't blame Noise Space Audio for the Ukraine post being slow during a war, but it might be a while before it arrives.
 
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@Teryup Yeah, I’ve heard that - I’m not too worried about it though. It took me a while to find him on Reverb, and I messaged him about the Piggy before the last preorders opened up, and he got back to me within a couple days. He also was kind enough to follow up again when he opened the preorder listing.

If it doesn’t ship til August I’ll start worrying, but the listing estimated end of May/ beginning of June.
 
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“All molars …”. OK, I definitely know what this sounds like now 😁. I’m only half kidding.

It's a weird experience when you play a pedal straight from the bat by plugging it in the chain, switching on the system and start playing straight through the pedal without getting accustomed to your go-to dirt sounds first.
I plugged in the Wessex for a comparison just because it was sitting in front of me, and when I went from the DLS to the Wessex, the sound got a lot sharper and more piercing. I did not have the Wessex chalked down as a shrill and piercing pedal, so I was quite surprised by that.
 
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I’ve been going through my own journey based on a lot of the stuff in this thread, and I’ve got a Piggy on order - very excited for that one to arrive.

The real winner so far is the JPTR Jive - with the top diode engaged I’m able to get a nice raspiness when I dig in - very transparent- it still sounds like my bass, just brighter with a bit of grit. A perfect pair for my mellow clean tone. With no diodes it’s still very nice, and could easily be an always on sweetener.
I've used the Jive for a time to get more of a P bass sound out of my J style pickup configuration, by switching off all diodes and setting the gain to that level where you can hear breakup when you're wearing headphones in an otherwise quiet room, but not really in a mix. It kinda stirs up the midrange a bit more and gives the neck pickup of the J a slight push towards P territory. It's not a magic "Makes a J sound like a P" machine, but it gets you a few steps into the right direction. I only dropped it from my pedal board when the band I used it in dropped the last song that I wanted to use it in.

In that setting, it also takes other dirt pedals well. Set another pedal to the brink of breakup into the 'not-quite-there-yet' range of the gain knob and fire the one "clean" pedal into the other "clean" pedal and your #10 rasp becomes a #3 rasp all of a sudden.
 
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