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My Dirt Bender - Another Jounal

I thought that this was inbred on a level that goes deeper than mere preferences - but you learn something new every day. There are Canadians not into hockey.





This morning, when I stepped through the chamber where I conduct my experiments, I saw the velcro top of my Pedaltrain Nano, which was lying naked on the floor. I picked it up, wound up the power cable, put it into its bag and stored it away for later use. I think I will ride the Behemoth to battle for a while, and keep the PT Junior as my current board for the metal band.

The throaty bellow of that beast suits me just fine for the moment. I'll let you guys in on a secret:
Sometimes I work on my pick skills. I'm a finger player through and through, but playing with a pick can offer options. When you get a nasty cut or you really hit rock bottom and lose all traces of self-esteem, it might get you through the gig.
Yesterday, I realized that I have a set of fairly fresh Rotos on that bass and especially the A string is rough, which ate my fingertips faster than I thought, so I used a pick here and there to preserve my flesh - and the picking attack on the Meatsmoke is NASTY! This is the organic equivalent of the metallic Darkglass bite. It's poisonous AND venomous, and the jaws are large enough to crush.

No, this will be my ride for a while, I had too much fun not to!
Using a PICK?!? How dare you? Real bassists pour super glue on their fingers as an extra protective layer if their calluses are not up to the task. You should be ashamed of yourself.
 
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Using a PICK?!? How dare you? Real bassists pour super glue on their fingers as an extra protective layer if their calluses are not up to the task. You should be ashamed of yourself.
True Story: I actually got one step geekier and bought a bottle of Rock Tips. No idea if they are still around, but it's super glue designed to be used for just that. I had it with me, too. An unopened bottle. That was impossible to open, because it was completely dried up.
 
BTW, that reminds me. Did anyone, by any chance, follow the Primus Interstellar Drum Derby on youtube?
I've seen a few application videos on YT before the whole thing started and there was this one guy, an unknown player, that had a massive groove while at the same time playing either tongue in cheek or grinning widely - always so funny that it was impossible to take seriously but too good not to. I hoped against hope that they'd take this guy.




They took this guy.
 
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Not much time to play today, but here's a first impression on the OJ.
1. It's good.
2. The OJ is sounding so close to the non-boost channel of the Meatsmoke, it's not even funny!

The dirt texture is the same kind of organic grind, and when you twiddle the knobs a little, you come right in that territory.
I would say that the lowend does not really drop out at all, but when you overdo it, the upper frequencies get boosted a lot, so you compensate by turning down the Volume to compensate and that's where your lows get weaker.
 
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Not much time to play today, but here's a first impression on the OJ.
1. It's good.
2. The OJ is sounding so close to the non-boost channel of the Meatsmoke, it's not even funny!

The dirt texture is the same kind of organic grind, and when you twiddle the knobs a little, you come right in that territory.
I would say that the lowend does not really drop out at all, but when you overdo it, the upper frequencies get boosted a lot, so you compensate by turning down the Volume to compensate and that's where your lows get weaker.
The Joyo Oxford Sound is essentially the same pedal, but without the tone knob, which instead has been replaced by a 3 band active EQ section.

However this one does suck quite a bit of low end, as it, unlike the Orange Juice, has a simple basic analog cab sim filter build in, which is basically just a combined LPF and HPF.

On the other hand it got both more gain and volume on the tap, so you can get more of the glorious grindy overdrive going into regular distortion, and drive a poweramp with it should you want.

But because this one actually does suck quite a bit of low end it works best for bass when blended with clean signal, via for example a Boss LS-2, on the other hand the fact that low end is cut, in my experience/opinion, does make it work greater than the Orange Juice in this context, as sort of a faux bi-amping setup.

I love the Orange Juice, so much that I bought 2 of them, but currently only use my Oxford Sound, as described above, for always on overdrive/grind, if I had more room on my pedal board I would have included an Orange Juice as well, for occasional grindy overdrive, but I've had to prioritized and chose the more meaty overdrive growl from an EHX English Muff'n and then my Mosky Black Rat for high gain distortion, as the drives on my board.

If I had room I would have included my Boss MT-2 Metal Zone as well, it sounds particular great stacked into an Orange Juice, which makes the Metal Zone tighter and rids its fizzy tendencies, which instead is transformed to glorious grind.

If you own a Metal Zone try stack it into your Orange Juice and hear for yourself.
 
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What didn't you like about the Minnow? I have never checked that one out myself.

Not sure what all styles you are after but their Overdrive one sounds pretty nice and organic. Start of this video features it as well as more around the 10 minute mark.


Perhaps the Minnow was a turn-off because it's a squeaky clean preamp.

I have one and like it. I find the EQ useful for fine tuning.
 
Perhaps the Minnow was a turn-off because it's a squeaky clean preamp.

I have one and like it. I find the EQ useful for fine tuning.

Yes, I did not like that it is entirely transparent and crystal clear. It felt a little too hard and more than a little too harsh. Looking at the rest of the Trickfish portfolio, I decided that this probably is their idea of how they want to sound and while there are many people who like exactly that, I'm not one of them.
 

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