my first double bass

Discussion in 'Basses [DB]' started by eldad, Jul 20, 2022.


  1. eldad

    eldad

    Feb 24, 2015
    Hi, everyone
    Would appreciate help
    I'm planning to buy my first double bass
    And start learning
    I have been playing electric bass for many years
    I do not know where to start!
    I saw in thomann Child / Youth Double Basses
    I'm not particularly tall 1.67 cm
    Maybe 1/4 or even 1/8 would suit me
    Are the tools worth the money?
    Will these sizes fit my measurements?
    Any advice will help me
    Thanks
    Eldad
     
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  2. AGCurry

    AGCurry Supporting Member

    Jun 29, 2005
    St. Louis
    Welcome to the double bass! Let's start with this:

    New to the double bass or thinking of buying your first bass? READ THIS FIRST

    I think you meant "1.67 m," not "cm!"

    Many "newbies" like the idea of a fractional-sized bass, and we invariably advise them against it. No matter what size you are, an adult should start with a 3/4-size bass unless there's some factor we don't know.

    I don't know what you mean by "Are the tools worth the money?" What tools?
     
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  3. eldad

    eldad

    Feb 24, 2015
    Hey
    Thank you very much
    Eldad
     
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  4. Ryan in PDX

    Ryan in PDX

    Jan 14, 2020
    I'm shorter than you. A normal (3/4) bass is no problem.
     
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  5. eldad

    eldad

    Feb 24, 2015
    Hey
    Thank you very much!
    Lots of manufacturers
    Are there any recommendations for double bass
    Around $ 1500
    I'm from Israel
    Do not know if it is possible to find here all the variety
    Thanks
    Eldad
     
  6. Ed S

    Ed S

    Nov 14, 2019
    For those curious, 1.67 m = approx 5' 5 and 3/4"
     
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  7. Lee Moses

    Lee Moses

    Apr 2, 2013
    Tennessee
    I was even more curious how tall 1.67 cm is?
     
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  8. AGCurry

    AGCurry Supporting Member

    Jun 29, 2005
    St. Louis
    Eldad, yes, you will probably have to import one. I don't know the exchange rate for shekel-euro or shekel-GBP, but Britain, German, Italy, and Romania will probably yield the best results.

    Here is a web page from Thomann in the UK

    I like this one because 1) they perform a setup before shipping, and 2) there is a warranty.

    Another idea is to research orchestras and music schools in Israel and try to contact their bassists.

    Kol tuv,
    Andy
     
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  9. bass12

    bass12 Have You Met Grace Jones?

    Jun 8, 2008
    Montreal, Canada
    If you buy a bass locally I would suggest getting a competent double bassist to help you evaluate any possible purchases (you might have to pay them as if you were taking a lesson - but it will likely be worth it). As someone new to DB you won't have as much of an idea of what to look for in a double bass. Repairs and modifications on DBs can get expensive quickly so you want to avoid taking on any unnecessary issues when buying a new bass. Good luck!
     
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  10. eldad

    eldad

    Feb 24, 2015
    Hey :)
    Thank you very much
    Andy :))
    For all the help from you
    I'm full of appreciation for you
    Talkabass is a real home for me
    Thanks
    Thank you very much
    Bass 12
    you're the best
    Great day
    Eldad
     
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  11. BassFalcon

    BassFalcon Supporting Member

    Nov 18, 2020
    Welcome to the double bass party! If you want to look to a fellow Israeli for inspiration, Avishai Cohen is an astounding bassist and composer. I believe he is on social media, reach out and ask him who a good teacher is or where a good bass shop is.
    As far as basses I also recommend renting at first. You’ll get a known and properly cared for decent bass, from which to build your experience. Double bass is just really expensive. Even the cheap ones. It’s better to get an idea of what’s good and what you like before you drop big bucks on your own.
     
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  12. eldad

    eldad

    Feb 24, 2015
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  13. BassFalcon

    BassFalcon Supporting Member

    Nov 18, 2020
    If I were you I’d go with the Gewa or the Thomann 44.
    The Gewa has laminate back and sides with a carved top. That will get you a strong, durable bass that will last, and the carved top will get you a richer tone than a laminate top as found in the Hoefner. The price is also nice.
    The Thomann looks pretty nice too, the options to have it set up differently will mean it will probably play pretty well, and sound very nice as well. For your purposes the tonal benefits of having a solid carved bass may not be worth the potential maintenance troubles if you don’t have a luthier near by who can patch up cracks. The other concern about the Thomann is that fully carved basses aren’t usually found in this price range, so it would make me worry to wonder what corners were cut to get down to that price. On the flip side Thomann is highly respected company, and they probably wouldn’t sell junk. So maybe it is just a great deal. It’s hard to say without seeing and playing it. They had to save that money somewhere. The Gewa is a nice price and a good compromise between tone and durability/reliability, although it may be worth factoring in another $100-200 and taking it to a Luthier for a setup after you receive it. A setup is where they make sure the fingerboard has the right amount of scoop carved in so the strings don’t buzz, the nut slots are the correct depth, the bridge is the right height, the sound post is in the best position, and a few smaller tweaks as well.
    It also looks nice. It should be fine to get the ball rolling and start your double bass journey. Whatever you choose, congratulations! I’m excited for you! I hope it works out well!
     
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  14. BassFalcon

    BassFalcon Supporting Member

    Nov 18, 2020
    Speaking of double bass luthiers in Israel, maybe this list will help. No idea if any of them are good, just thought I’d help you find some folks. It can be tough to find someone to work on basses, not just any violin shop will.



    Tel-Aviv
    , Eyal Vodnizky
    972-3-6490951, fax 972-3-6490105 [​IMG] [email protected]
    Builds and repairs URBs, built EUB for Eberhard Weber

    Shlomo Moyal - THE INTERNATIONAL VIOLIN BRIDGE COMPETITION

    Home | haifaviolins

    Jonathan Hai

    And this guy might be good to reach out to for lessons/mentoring/asking about bass shops

    About - doublebasseast


     
  15. eldad

    eldad

    Feb 24, 2015
    Thank you very much
    bassfalcon
    for the help from you
    very appreciate
    Thanks
    Eldad
     
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  16. eldad

    eldad

    Feb 24, 2015
    Hey
    I think I went through a phase
    Thank you all
    Part of my plan
    Of course to record at my house
    I have a sound card
    Apollo twin
    Which pickup is recommended for jazz and Latin
    many thanks
    Eldad
     
  17. AGCurry

    AGCurry Supporting Member

    Jun 29, 2005
    St. Louis
    For recording? No pickup at all. Microphone!
     
  18. eldad

    eldad

    Feb 24, 2015
    Hi Andy
    Thank you
    I don't have an acoustic room
    The recording quality should not be the highest
    and adds that the budget will be reasonable
    I'm just getting started
    Any recommendations (there are so many options on the market)
    Thank you
    :)Andy Kol tuv
    Eldad
     
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  19. AGCurry

    AGCurry Supporting Member

    Jun 29, 2005
    St. Louis
    Eldad, the cheapest will be a piezo-element pickup which is inserted into a wing of the bass's bridge. K&K, Vic's, and several other brands are available; as far as I can tell, they're much alike, so choosing the most expensive one may not be worth the added shekels.

    An important factor in using a piezo pickup is the input impedance of the device it's plugged into. If the impedance is too low, you will hear a duck-quack kind of sound. One megohm (million ohms) is generally considered the minimum desired impedance.

    There is much more information about pickups in the "Amps, Mics, and Pickups" section of this forum.

    בהצלחה
    Andy
     
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  20. eldad

    eldad

    Feb 24, 2015
    Hi Andy:)
    Thank you so much

    אתה נהדר
    תודה
    eldad
     

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