My New Zero Tolerance Craigslist Attitude.

[BadSanta1281]

I rarely haggle when buying unless the condition is not as expected but always have the full amount on hand in case the seller is firm. I also NEVER entertain a 'What's the least you'll take?' kind of offer via email, text, or phone. Haggling only happens face to face on local sales.

Actually, salespeople are usually very reasonable as buyers.

When I was in the car business my favorite question from a buyer was "What's your best price on this car?" I would always answer that my best price is right there on the window sticker. What we need to do is figure out what your best price is.

Several times I would have a man by himself looking at a car tell me that he needed to check with his wife before committing to buy. I would immediately pull my phone out of my pocket and say "Okay, I'm gonna check with my wife to see if it's okay to sell you this car."

I always thought it was funny... sometimes the customer did.

 

[Cliff Colton]

Responding to a CL ad for a bass, I left a message on the seller’s voice mail saying I’m calling about the Peavey for sale and if still available please call me back. I missed the return call but the seller left me a message saying: “I’m not selling a TV, I’m selling a jazz bass.”

Later when we spoke, I inquired about the condition and was told there was severe scratching on the back of the body deliberately caused by the seller to scratch off his former band’s name which was etched on the body. I asked what was the name of the band and he said he didn’t remember.

He sent me photos and I sent him a text saying it appeared the bass had a Squier body and Peavey neck, I never heard from him again. I assumed he either sold it or the rightful owner took it back.

 

[MordBass]

I've been with this for 30 pages but I might as well weigh in now.

Short version, neither the buyer nor the seller come out looking great.

However, if I break it down, it's like this:

• Buyer makes a faux pas, but I don't believe with malicious intent: trying to knock off a few bucks. I don't totally understand the sequence of events, but I think there are multiple reasonable interpretations regarding whether or not the buyer was trying to get away with something re: how close he was.
• Seller escalated by taking it personally. "Sorry, the price is firm at $600" would have been perfectly appropriate, and avoided all the nonsense.
• Buyer further escalated with profanity.
• Seller responded in kind.

So, both are at fault. The buyer made the first but the smallest, most forgivable mistake. The seller made the bigger mistake that turned the whole thing sour. The buyer made it extra profane. Etc.

Interestingly, note that the seller/OP is currently suspended/banned on TB; the first post in this thread was March 11th. I have no insight as to why specifically, but I'll leave it as an exercise to the reader to determine if MAYBE the seller doesn't have the coolest of heads...

I mean.... this is TB so the possibilities could be pretty vast

 

[MynameisMe]

Honestly, I used the search function. I promise!
I wonder if the OP's bass he was selling had flats on it?
To bad he's banned. We may never know....

 

[BadSanta1281]

I wonder if the OP's bass he was selling had flats on it?

Nobody asked him if it was a good bass for metal, either.
A lost opportunity.

 

[Cliff Colton]

Wow, I had no idea you could be banned AND suspended! Double secret probation.

Generally speaking, suspension follows an offending post, and a ban follows the text message sent back to the Mod after he says knock it off.

 

[MynameisMe]

Nobody asked him if it was a good bass for metal, either.
A lost opportunity.

Upsetting as it seems, I have yet to see this question answered...

 

[MordBass]

Generally speaking, suspension follows an offending post, and a ban follows the text message sent back to the Mod after he says knock it off.

Agreed. A quick google search will take you to unfiltered conversations on the matter at other forums. Ya know, if anybody is interested in that sort of thing.

 

[Cliff Colton]

Here’s what I learned from all of this:

 

[5StringBlues]

Ever eat a pine tree?


Many parts are edible.

 

[MynameisMe]

I wonder if the OP is watching all this and can't comment to defend himself?
Let us now delve into the psyche of the suspended/ banned

 

[MordBass]

I wonder if the OP is watching all this and can't comment to defend himself?
Let us now delve into the psyche of the suspended/ banned

I wonder if he's eating carrots.

 

[Cliff Colton]

He’s a good guy. He gave me some guidance earlier on another thread. I just wish he had taken the $600 and at least tried to sell the buyer a Buyer Protection Plan. But I understand he had to make a decision within seconds whereas I’ve had 3 weeks to confer with 500 TB members and think about it.

I was thinking maybe there should be an emergency TB Hotline to call when someone has a situation like this. No time to post and wait for a reply when a seller is in your living room and wants to turn the truss rod. What do you do?

 

[MynameisMe]

I was thinking maybe there should be an emergency TB Hotline to call when someone has a situation like this. No time to post and wait for a reply when a seller is in your living room and wants to turn the truss rod. What do you do?

A 900#?

 

[Cliff Colton]

Is 922 available? Easy to remember. Every member takes a turn for one hour...the calls are forwarded to the members’ cellphones. I’ll take January 1 at 3:00am.

 

[MordBass]

Ill take any tuesday at noon, central time

 

[MynameisMe]

I am out of time so I will remain anonymous.

 

[beaglesandbass]

Generally speaking, suspension follows an offending post, and a ban follows the text message sent back to the Mod after he says knock it off.

Suspensions are temporary. Bans are permanent. Enough of any rule breaking can trigger either. If a user gets banned while suspended, the suspended badge will still show until the original suspension is over (1 month). After that, it goes away and the user will be left with the banned badge. We’ve had plenty of users go straight to banned without being suspended at the same time. A lot of times though a suspended user will ragequit at help desk after being suspended, which usually involves both parties wanting to part ways.