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NBD: 51 Reissue Precision

A CIJ 51 Reissue Precision jumped off the wall and into my hands at Guitar Center last week. I never thought I was a slab bass guy but I really like this bass.

I ordered a bunch of parts and spent way too long today measuring and remeasuring and finally installing them.

Added Bakelite saddles, bridge cover, pickup cover and tugbar. Next project is the tone circuit. I have two CTS pots and a .5 cap waiting to install.
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I've been debating the SD Quarter Pound. I was hoping to hear one before I pull the trigger but that seems to be a popular mod. I'd also like to hear the Antiquity before I decide.

I bought an Electrosocket to have on hand but, so far, the stock jack is solid on mine.

Also, it looks like you chose the same case that I'm looking at.

I'm also running TI Jazz Flats - the .043-.100 set. I like them and was surprised how bright they are. I had a hard time intonating them though. (Notwithstanding the two saddle bridge). If you look at the pic above, you can see I'm almost out of travel on the D/G saddle. It was the same story with the stock steel two saddle bridge as well. Did you have a similar experience?
 
Why the bakelite saddles? Just curious.

I thought it would be cool to do a "time machine" project with this bass and the saddles were Bakelite in '51.

I added the covers and tug bar and have been slowly switching the phillips screws over to slot-heads. I also bought the parts to duplicate the '51 tone circuit though the one in there now is close.

I'm holding off on a pickup replacement until I research more and see what is closest to the '51 spec.

I suppose the TI Jazz flats should be replaced with LaBella Deep Talkin flats or something similar and I should add the foam mute but I'm not sure I'm THAT committed. ;)
 
I've been debating the SD Quarter Pound. I was hoping to hear one before I pull the trigger but that seems to be a popular mod. I'd also like to hear the Antiquity before I decide.

I bought an Electrosocket to have on hand but, so far, the stock jack is solid on mine.

Also, it looks like you chose the same case that I'm looking at.

I'm also running TI Jazz Flats - the .043-.100 set. I like them and was surprised how bright they are. I had a hard time intonating them though. (Notwithstanding the two saddle bridge). If you look at the pic above, you can see I'm almost out of travel on the D/G saddle. It was the same story with the stock steel two saddle bridge as well. Did you have a similar experience?


I really like the QP. I haven't tried other pickups (I had a Jazz Fretless with Antiquity II pickups, and thought they sounded great). The QP, to my ear, sounds a lot like the stock one; there's just "more" of everything.

The Electrosocket mod was made pretty early, when I began having problems with the stock output coming loose.

The case is Fender's Vintage Tweed. I have a couple of them, and they are nice. The only gripe is that, when I played in places where smoking was allowed, that pretty cotton/linen tweed soaked up cigarette smoke and the car smelled like an ash tray.

The bridge is a Fender American Deluxe item from a few years ago, when those models offered the option of string-through loading.

I suppose the TI Jazz flats should be replaced with LaBella Deep Talkin flats or something similar and I should add the foam mute but I'm not sure I'm THAT committed. ;)

I had the LaBella tape-wounds on it for a stretch (it looked great, like a Black & Decker Precision:D) but they gave the bass a nasal sound that was annoying. I have standardized on the TIs on most of my basses (the exception is my Godin A5 Fretless, which still has the factory flats).

Finally, I think that foam mutes are unnecessary. Youu can mute with your fingers when you need to. The mutes were added to the original P to reduce the bass's tendency to blow out the early bass amp speakers and to emulate what Leo thought a bass should sound like. A lot of the early Ps had the bridge cover turned around so the mutes no longer touched the strings.
 
Nice bass, with some sweet and very appropriate mods. I just wish I could find one that isn't that annoying school bus yellow color. Maybe it's the lighting, but yours doesn't look yellow like the ones I see in the shops.
 
Finally, I think that foam mutes are unnecessary. Youu can mute with your fingers when you need to. The mutes were added to the original P to reduce the bass's tendency to blow out the early bass amp speakers and to emulate what Leo thought a bass should sound like. A lot of the early Ps had the bridge cover turned around so the mutes no longer touched the strings.

I agree with you about the foam mute - I think I'll leave it out. But with my OCD impulses, I did consider it.

Wow I have just started a "project" bass, a 51 P, and love those bakelite saddles. Nice touch. I have not decided on a pickup yet but the Labella's are a great choice. Good luck!

I should have given credit in my original post - the saddles were made by fellow TB'er WEBBTECA. His info is here: http://www.talkbass.com/forum/f221/webbteca-musical-industries-presents-mod-bar-725246/ I called his phone number and he called me back within two hours and I think made the saddles the same day. I had them two days later and he couldn't have been any better to deal with. If you're interested, I highly recommend him.

The rest of the parts came form GR Guitars and they were also great to deal with. Everything was in stock and shipped quickly. They have a lot of parts for various bass projects like this. They have new and "aged" pieces for much of their stock and they're a great source for the single-screw tug bars in both maple and black. Except for the Bakelite saddles, they were a one-stop-shop for me with all the other period-correct stuff including the tone circuit parts and the slot-head screws.

Cool bass. Antiquity II is a good pickup as well. I had one in my Sting bass itsounded great.

Thanks for that info. I'll definitely check one out before I decide.

Sweet bass! Would look great if u were to have it refinished in candy apple red

Like this?
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Those Cabronita basses, and this red one in particular, are what got me thinking about a slab P bass in the first place.

Nice bass, with some sweet and very appropriate mods. I just wish I could find one that isn't that annoying school bus yellow color. Maybe it's the lighting, but yours doesn't look yellow like the ones I see in the shops.

Thank you! Mine is in the 2002-2004 date range and I'm pretty sure it is the schoolbus yellow color that some folks don't care for. It suits me well enough since most of the pics I used as reference for my mods seem to show that color. However, Fender Japan apparently did a run of these in the late 90's or early 2000s in a lighter finish. Chef sold one last July in this thread: http://www.talkbass.com/forum/f126/chefs-1951-precision-reissue-commemorative-edition-9-901968/

nice bass. I have one (on the right, obviously). The original pickup hummed too much for my taste so I put in a Seymour Duncan instead. It's not the quarter pounder, it's the vintage P single coil.

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Nice collection you have there! I don't recognize the bass to the left of the '51 - what is that? It sure looks cool.
 
Very cool man! I recently put together a pseudo 54 reissue using a Fender Sting body and Fender 51 neck with a bunch of other parts too.

Mine was a little bit of a more modern take but I went with the repro cap and resister in the wiring and I really like it. There's a volume drop when the tone is rolled off but the tone is really nice and deep.

I have the lindy fralin split 51 pickup in my bass now but I hear his stock single coil is pretty accurate in terms of tone too.