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NBD! Black on Maple MusicMan StingRay

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Here she is. The new StingRay. Sorry for the crappy low-light cell phone photo. I'll be taking better pictures later.

This is my second StingRay. My first I bought in 1987 after I saved up my money working at a coffee shop. It was $700 at Guitar Center - my first "real" bass. Honey Burst with a bird's eye maple neck. I never liked the color, but it was all that they had in stock. I played, gigged and recorded with it for almost 20 years. Countless hours of playing - in fact I wore a hole in the wood above the pickup where I placed my thumb.

In 2006, I relocated to SoCal from NorCal. I left my bass, along with some other belongings at my dad's house. I figured it would be safe if I left it there while I got re-established down south. I wasn't playing music much at the time and I was going through a big career change, so I didn't have a lot of time. I came back a year later and it was gone. My dad let some drug addict stay at our house for a while and he gave the bass to him when the druggie asked if he could borrow it. I was pretty livid, but I realized there was a bigger problem; my dad was suffering from early onset dementia.

A few years later, I started playing gigs again and decided to go another route and play a Jazz and then a Precision, but I kept missing my StingRay. Every time I tried one out, I walked away disappointed because it wasn't my StingRay.

I finally bought this one a week ago on an impulse which is really unusual for me. I walked into a music store on a whim and I played this one and I instantly loved it. My dad had passed away recently and he didn't leave me much, but he left about enough to pay for the StingRay, so I said, "What the hell, I guess this is what this money was meant for." I never liked black basses too much either, but I realized that MusicMan's colors mostly suck anyway.

In conclusion, this bass plays way better than my old one ever did. I strung it with Sadowski Black Label flats last night and it thunders proudly. I brought it to rehearsal last night and it really delivered. Saturday, I'll be playing it at her first gig. The new one doesn't sound quite as good as the old one, but she'll do.

Just an observation about MusicMan in general, and I may be wrong, but it seemed like back in the 80's StingRays were kind of an unusual bass. If you couldn't afford a Fender or whatever dayglo shred machine or tiny-bodied headless monstrosity was cool that minute, you'd buy a StingRay. They were real meat and potatoes instruments! Flea played one, and I used to see a few punk rockers in the Bay Area rockin' old, really thrashed 'Rays. Nowadays, they're kind of boutique-y with the various amenities like the multi-finish necks, the six bolt plates and such, and now they're more expensive than Fenders! Maybe that's just my impression.
 
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3-EQ Stingray in Gloss Black, Chrome, Maple/Maple - Oh Yeah, that's where it is AT!! Hope she gives you as much pleasure as your last one, and I think your observation on Rays in the '80s is spot on - they were largely overshadowed by the flood of over-styled weirdness that was around back then. Until a chap from Wales by the name of Pino Palladino hit the streets...
 
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i've always wanted a stringray.

cherry black burst, rosewood neck and board tuned to D standard. drool...one day.

i mean just listen to it!!



I guess this video demonstrates how little the bass itself contributes to good tone, compared to the hands it is in. I'm just happy that I know what a Stingray actually sounds like - this is not it and if someone tried to sell me one based on this video I'm afraid I would have to just walk (run?) away.
 
3-EQ Stingray in Gloss Black, Chrome, Maple/Maple - Oh Yeah, that's where it is AT!! Hope she gives you as much pleasure as your last one, and I think your observation on Rays in the '80s is spot on - they were largely overshadowed by the flood of over-styled weirdness that was around back then. Until a chap from Wales by the name of Pino Palladino hit the streets...

Yeah the MusicMan stuff just seems so fancy compared to their older instruments. Fender has managed to up their quality while still maintaining their working man's roots. I for one, kinda miss that "it's just a StingRay" vibe my old one had, which is perhaps what ultimately drew me to the most basic MusicMan out there. Who knows? Seeing how Pino is playing a P these days, maybe there's something to that impression.

I guess this video demonstrates how little the bass itself contributes to good tone, compared to the hands it is in. I'm just happy that I know what a Stingray actually sounds like - this is not it and if someone tried to sell me one based on this video I'm afraid I would have to just walk (run?) away.

Well I guess that's the beauty of it, ain't it? Everybody has different idea of what a StingRay should be. Some would scoff at the idea of flats on a 'Ray, but I for one don't care much about their so-called "legendary bite" and much prefer the mellow, well-rounded punch that they have. They can be really understated instruments that really drive the rhythm section.
 
Very nice bass. I don't agree with your 1980's market position on MM's though. Out of the gate in the 70's, they weren't seen as a cheaper alternative to Fenders.

I worked in a store that sold both. They were actually presented as a higher quality, small-batch alternative. They were adopted right out of the gate by John Deacon, Tom Hamilton and Louis Johnson.
 
I don't know if there's a funner or smoother bass to play that I've seen. I love my stingrays even with the heavy weight that they all bring but my only problem is for it seems as though the Stingrays are a little muddy in a complete band mix. I would buy another tomorrow if they could somehow fix the muddy issue. Love the growl and thumb of the pickups but the mud is a problem for me.
 
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Very nice bass. I don't agree with your 1980's market position on MM's though. Out of the gate in the 70's, they weren't seen as a cheaper alternative to Fenders.

I worked in a store that sold both. They were actually presented as a higher quality, small-batch alternative. They were adopted right out of the gate by John Deacon, Tom Hamilton and Louis Johnson.

Like I said, I might have been way off with my assessment. I remember being into Bill Laswell and Cliff Williams back then, but i seem to remember seeing a lot of Spectors and Steinbergers back then. I'd see guys with StingRays, but not like you see them today.

I don't know if there's a funner or smoother bass to play that I've seen. I love my stingrays even with the heavy weight that they all bring but my only problem is for it seems as though the Stingrays are a little muddy in a complete band mix. I would buy another tomorrow if they could somehow fix the muddy issue. Love the growl and thumb of the pickups but the mud is a problem for me.

Three words: Three band EQ.
 
Like I said, I might have been way off with my assessment. I remember being into Bill Laswell and Cliff Williams back then, but i seem to remember seeing a lot of Spectors and Steinbergers back then. I'd see guys with StingRays, but not like you see them today.



Three words: Three band EQ.
How about thunder thumbs Louis Johnson. He was one of the first to endorse the MM. That was probably before the 80s though
 
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How about thunder thumbs Louis Johnson. He was one of the first to endorse the MM. That was probably before the 80s though

Yeah, there were guys who used 'em - Bernard Edwards - but I don't remember see them everywhere like you'd see some other brands at the time. Like I said, I could be totally off base in this one.
 
I don't know if there's a funner or smoother bass to play that I've seen. I love my stingrays even with the heavy weight that they all bring but my only problem is for it seems as though the Stingrays are a little muddy in a complete band mix. I would buy another tomorrow if they could somehow fix the muddy issue. Love the growl and thumb of the pickups but the mud is a problem for me.

Stingray is too muddy? I'm not sure I follow.. Which Stingray? 4H or classic.. 2 or 3 band EQ? I have a 3 band EQ wearing EB group 3s, and I would never say that bass is muddy.