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NBD-Brian Wilson devalues basses
- Thread starter A-Step-Towards
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Here's the solution: carefully cut out a veneer sized top layer of the body surrounding the signature, remove it and safely store the signed piece of wood. Fill in the hole on the bass and refinish it. Voila. Bass and signature intact. Don't try this on Siamese twins, though, because you can never get the finish right.
I am sorry, but I can't believe the lack of knowledge of Brian Wilson and what he has meant to the history of music. It just does not get any bigger in American musical history than him. I know the Beach Boys are seen in some circles as surf music hacks who had studio musicians playing all the parts on record. But, you have to dig deeper. As someone else already said, all those complex vocal and orchestral arrangements were written by Brian when no one was doing anything like that. Paul McCartney has said on several occasions that without Pet Sounds, Sgt. Peppers never would have been anything like it is. The Beach Boys are not the Monkees. The Beach Boys were a legitimate band whose leader pushed the music to a point where the members of the band were unable to keep up in the studio so they used studio musicians. If you need something to give you a clue about who Brian really was/is, search out the track, "God Only Knows." One of the greatest songs ever and displays just about every element that made Brian the genius that he was...
Indeed. I posted the BBC music remake with about a hundred well known musicians from rock to classical up thread.
I'm a fan so it doesn't bother me, even though I couldn't give two figs about autographs. You got a fine bass for a bargain price. Hell, your arm/wrist/hand would largely obscure the scribblins anyway. Relax, put on Pet Sounds and enjoy.
So I'm, generationally speaking, just on the cusp of GenX and the Millennials. Grew up listening to the Beach Boys as they had a big presence in my dad's LP collection, which I wore the grooves off of as a kid.
Despite the fact that I was a fan as a kid, and despite the fact that they were still "relevant" artists up until I was ~10 or 12 they really fell off my radar after about 18. This is despite me being a music history buff, and a massive classic rock/prog/metal fan.
If it wasn't for a weird period a few years back, where I started to really dig into the Beach Boys, I would not consider myself a fan now. My father passed, for some reason the Beach Boys reminded me of both him and, well, better times in my youth I guess. As a result I started digging in deeply and am definitely a fan now.
They, unfortunately, fall into a very odd place genre-wise. Most people under 50 think of them as just being a "pop rock/surf rock" band, and have not been exposed to the genius of Pet Sounds or Smile.
Very few people under 50 understand that Brian Wilson personally inspired Paul and John to, essentially, man up and start writing "real" songs.
Almost no one gets that he was writing and arranging parts for an entire band. He would coach the other members on how to sing their parts and go over it with them line by line until they got it right. He would then record the whole thing, using, at best, an 8 track reel to reel, efficiently. This was all done without the help of a, for lack of a better term, "grown up" in the room making things work.
This was in stark contrast to, say, the Beatles. Paul, John or George would come in with a song idea. Band would develop it into a song with George Martin coaching them into the right parts. George would then record them. It was a team effort.
Brian was a one man show.
Brian was doing that all at like 18 or 19. It's miraculous in retrospect. He really does deserve more credit, but unfortunately they're positioned in a genre that is under appreciated, and under acknowledged by today's listeners and musicians.
Lol yeah well I was born nearly 30 years after they got big. I saw them at a fair when I was like 5. I dont like The Beatles or Jaco either.
I bought a Charvel electric guitar in 1995 that had Steve Vai's signature on it. I rubbed it off because I didn't like Steve Vai and wound up selling it a few months later because I didn't like the guitar..
On a Beach Boys note, Kokomo is probably my least favorite song of all time. Beach Boys and John Stamos in the same video (with Tom Cruise serving drinks)? Dreadful.
On a Beach Boys note, Kokomo is probably my least favorite song of all time. Beach Boys and John Stamos in the same video (with Tom Cruise serving drinks)? Dreadful.
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Roy Vogt
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OP, whatever you do you need to cover that with a fixing agent (clear coat of something) or body oils and sweat will take care of your problem for you.
I'm with the guy who said to sell it for $300ish and then get an unsigned one. If it's no value to you it may still be of value to someone because Brian signed it.
You may not like all those Old Guy Bands, I'm cool with that. Just realize that even if you're a Stone Punk Rocker all those Dinosaur Bands are of value if only to be something to rebel against. Otherwise, we might all be comparing our Butch Wax and collecting Pat Boone singles. Golly Gee!
I'm with the guy who said to sell it for $300ish and then get an unsigned one. If it's no value to you it may still be of value to someone because Brian signed it.
You may not like all those Old Guy Bands, I'm cool with that. Just realize that even if you're a Stone Punk Rocker all those Dinosaur Bands are of value if only to be something to rebel against. Otherwise, we might all be comparing our Butch Wax and collecting Pat Boone singles. Golly Gee!
Ok, well I will born about 100 years after the Civil War, I still know more than a little about it. Buddy Holly was dead when I was born, I still know enough about him to discuss his place in music history. The point is, not knowing about history is not something of which you should be proud. Whomever it is that you do idolize, guess what, they did not start anything and you have to go back to the roots of rock and roll to figure it out...
Christ dude calm down, I don't like The Beach Boys end of story dont make it look like I am ignorant, I have listened to them enough to garner my own opinion . Personally I see them as the likes of a boy band. They were formed in 1961, One of my favorite bands is The Who who formed in 1964 so I am suppose to appreciate a band I don't like because they came 3 years earlier then a band I do like? The Beach Boys maybe this and that to some folks but there is a reason they reached the level they did and many bands like The Who totally reached other levels.
I am done with this thread. I think I should post a video of me removing the signature.
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Roy Vogt
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Should you decide to protect the autograph and maybe cover it with a sticker here's how to do it:
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Here's an Ebay page showing various autograph guitars. It seems that the guitar has most of the value-a junk guitar is still a junk guitar even if someone famous signed it.
Note that there's a Joe Satriani signed Ibanez Signature going for 3K. Ooops.....
http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_fro...ed+guitar&_nkw=autographed+guitar&_sacat=3858
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Here's an Ebay page showing various autograph guitars. It seems that the guitar has most of the value-a junk guitar is still a junk guitar even if someone famous signed it.
Note that there's a Joe Satriani signed Ibanez Signature going for 3K. Ooops.....
http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_fro...ed+guitar&_nkw=autographed+guitar&_sacat=3858
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From what I saw doing a quick search, Brian Wilson had nothing to do with writing or recording "Kokomo". It doesn't even sound like a Beach Boys tune to me.
Brian Wilson was getting over some pretty major drug issues at that time - he actually forgot how to play instruments and needed years of rehab. The remainder of the band that were still alive (Mike Love + others) were trying to get some quick cash.
There were contracts during the 70's and early 80's that had to have a certain number of Brian Wilson tracks in order to be counted as beach boys records. The record company wouldn't pay anything if Brian wasn't involved.
It is actually quite surprising that Brian is the brother to have actually survived.
Many boybands stay boybands.
Some (e.g. The monkeys) went from boy band to something more.
The beachboys had something more from the beginning. Like the beatles, the song writing is superb.
I'd get the signature verified, and then keep it pristine. Putting a sticker over it may be the call. One day his signature will be worth a bit of money. He really is a genius.
