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NBD - Fender Elite Jazz!!

warptheory

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After going to several stores the past 2 weeks, trying out the new Ultra II's, Ultra I's, Professional II, and Player II, finally decided on one that I gelled with, a used Fender Elite. I didn't have a 4 string jazz in my arsenal, so this was filling a gap.

The Ultra II's were ok, but had a bright modern sound, even in passive mode. Somewhat the same but not as much with the Ultra I. Professional II was great, had an awesome tone, same with the Player, but I could tell the Professional was a step above buildwise compared to the Player.

Then I noticed a GC near me had a Fender Elite, and figured I'd go in and check it out. The tone was great, passive and active. It was in excellent pristine condition, including the case, which had a 55 point card checklist card from Sweetwater. This was a closet queen.

The only cons on it were the mid/tone pot that crackled a little bit if I jiggled it while in active mode. Pointed it out to the rep, he said they could take a look at it, but I told them not to worry about it, I'll come back if it's a huge issue. Had them weigh it, it was 9 pounds 12 ounces. Oof, a bit heavy, but only 3 ounces more than my 5 strings, and those don't bother me that much. I'll be able to run it through some 2-3 hour rehearsals to see if it bothers me.

Brought it home and started to play it, sounds AWESOME in passive mode. Turn on active mode, and started to play, weird, it sounds like the preamp is clipping. I must not have been playing it as hard in the store as I do when actually playing a song. I do tend to dig in hard, but none of my other basses have any issue with clipping. Swapped the batteries, same issue. So now I might take it back and point it out to them, hopefully get them to refund a little bit so I can buy a replacement preamp. I don't see that Fender sells replacement preamps (would be sweet to replace it with the new Ultra II preamp), so then I guess I'm on the hunt for a new preamp, if I decide to keep it.

I think the Elite line was the pinnacle of Fender's releases. Binding, blocks, truss rod wheel on the body, string through, 5 bolt neck with neck carve. I've read that a lot of people have replaced the preamp with an Audere or John East, so may look into one of those if I end up needing to swap it. At least its a replaceable part, all of the importing bits, body, bridge, neck, tuners, frets, are all in excellent condition.

As long as the weight doesn't bother me this is a keeper! And now for a couple pics...

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Very nice!

A John East J Retro Deluxe is definitely a worthy upgrade. So is the Audere. The East will have a warm baked-in nature to it. The Audere will be more neutral sounding. I would stay with the drop-in style of aftermarket preamp for that one.

Be aware that you’ll have to remove the small connectors from the pickup wires and battery compartment wires. And save those little connectors in case you go back to the OEM pre or want to sell the bass later.

Also, depending on your environment, you may need to do a more thorough shielding job (as with every Fender Jazz I ever owned). Even with the nice N4 pickups, I was getting a bit of noise here and there. Some copper foil shielding pretty much solved that.

I loved the Elite Jazz I had. A tad heavy, and some mods helped. Yer gonna hear the usual “too much money to need that kind of attention” talk and whatever. I’d play one again if my Mike Lulls disappeared….😁
 
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Awesome! Great find and color. I believe that's champagne but it does look like Fender's shoreline gold. I used to have a USA standard Jazz from 2006 in Shoreline Gold and it looks similar. I always thought the Elites were the unsung hero's of that line. I never saw a need for improvement aside from the pre-amp being noisy in certain environments. Almost got one myself back around 2020. Saw a beautiful used Elite in jade pearl metallic with an ebony board. Played and sounded fantastic. Was about to go back and grab it but then got Covid and by the time I could get back it was gone.

Even if the pre-amp is wonky, that's an easy enough fix or modification with all of the options available nowadays, especially how good these play.
 
After going to several stores the past 2 weeks, trying out the new Ultra II's, Ultra I's, Professional II, and Player II, finally decided on one that I gelled with, a used Fender Elite. I didn't have a 4 string jazz in my arsenal, so this was filling a gap.

The Ultra II's were ok, but had a bright modern sound, even in passive mode. Somewhat the same but not as much with the Ultra I. Professional II was great, had an awesome tone, same with the Player, but I could tell the Professional was a step above buildwise compared to the Player.

Then I noticed a GC near me had a Fender Elite, and figured I'd go in and check it out. The tone was great, passive and active. It was in excellent pristine condition, including the case, which had a 55 point card checklist card from Sweetwater. This was a closet queen.

The only cons on it were the mid/tone pot that crackled a little bit if I jiggled it while in active mode. Pointed it out to the rep, he said they could take a look at it, but I told them not to worry about it, I'll come back if it's a huge issue. Had them weigh it, it was 9 pounds 12 ounces. Oof, a bit heavy, but only 3 ounces more than my 5 strings, and those don't bother me that much. I'll be able to run it through some 2-3 hour rehearsals to see if it bothers me.

Brought it home and started to play it, sounds AWESOME in passive mode. Turn on active mode, and started to play, weird, it sounds like the preamp is clipping. I must not have been playing it as hard in the store as I do when actually playing a song. I do tend to dig in hard, but none of my other basses have any issue with clipping. Swapped the batteries, same issue. So now I might take it back and point it out to them, hopefully get them to refund a little bit so I can buy a replacement preamp. I don't see that Fender sells replacement preamps (would be sweet to replace it with the new Ultra II preamp), so then I guess I'm on the hunt for a new preamp, if I decide to keep it.

I think the Elite line was the pinnacle of Fender's releases. Binding, blocks, truss rod wheel on the body, string through, 5 bolt neck with neck carve. I've read that a lot of people have replaced the preamp with an Audere or John East, so may look into one of those if I end up needing to swap it. At least its a replaceable part, all of the importing bits, body, bridge, neck, tuners, frets, are all in excellent condition.

As long as the weight doesn't bother me this is a keeper! And now for a couple pics...

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Congrats!! I have one just like it! "Champagne" is the color...and I too think the Elites were fantastic....so I bought a 5 string Elite too!
 
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I’ve got that same exact bass, bought it new about 6 years ago. They are extremely well made and probably the best jazz neck of any of the many Jazz basses I’ve owned. I use this bass exclusively in my 70’s funk cover band and fits perfectly for that style.
I yanked the preamp out almost immediately and went passive only with a pair Dimarzio Area J pups. Those OE preamps are hot as hell and make flipping between active and passive unusable. After I put the Area J’s in I get nothing but compliments from bandmates and audience regarding the tone.. solid built bass too!
 
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Yep, Champagne, but the part I really love is the neck, the blocks and binding are nice touches.I loved the Elite Jazz I had. A tad heavy, and some mods helped.




Very nice!

A John East J Retro Deluxe is definitely a worthy upgrade. So is the Audere. The East will have a warm baked-in nature to it. The Audere will be more neutral sounding. I would stay with the drop-in style of aftermarket preamp for that one.

I loved the Elite Jazz I had. A tad heavy, and some mods helped. Yer gonna hear the usual “too much money to need that kind of attention” talk and whatever. I’d play one again if my Mike Lulls disappeared….😁
What mods would make it lighter? Tuners and bridge?

John East gets a lot of love, but I like to play passive, and I think in passive mode, the blend doesn't work, you just get a choice between both and bridge only. I prefer the neck pickup though, so this doesn't really work for me. Maybe I can cram a UNI-PRE 4 knob in there which does have a proper blend in passive. The bass has a battery compartment, so doesn't really need the drop in version.
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Congrats, I love the color! I think the Elites were the best Fender offered recently. The ultra’s seemed like a downgrade to me.

I would see if you can get a partial refund and go buy a Sadowsky preamp for it. That would sound great!
Yea, Sadowsky is an option. I like the VTC so I can use tone knob in active and passive mode, but lose any sort of mid control.

I’ve got that same exact bass, bought it new about 6 years ago. They are extremely well made and probably the best jazz neck of any of the many Jazz basses I’ve owned. I use this bass exclusively in my 70’s funk cover band and fits perfectly for that style.
I yanked the preamp out almost immediately and went passive only with a pair Dimarzio Area J pups. Those OE preamps are hot as hell and make flipping between active and passive unusable. After I put the Area J’s in I get nothing but compliments from bandmates and audience regarding the tone.. solid built bass too!
There is a significant bump in active volume compared to passive. I took the preamp out to look at it and there is no gain control, so no way to normalize it. I know I could just turn the volume down, but it's just one more thing to have to adjust.

I do like the sound of it passive, so maybe I just rip it out and make it fully passive. K.I.S.S.

I also noticed that the blend it pretty much a 3 way toggle, and not much of a blend.

As long as the weight doesn't bother me, its a keeper!
 
Yep, Champagne, but the part I really love is the neck, the blocks and binding are nice touches.I loved the Elite Jazz I had. A tad heavy, and some mods helped.





What mods would make it lighter? Tuners and bridge?

John East gets a lot of love, but I like to play passive, and I think in passive mode, the blend doesn't work, you just get a choice between both and bridge only. I prefer the neck pickup though, so this doesn't really work for me. Maybe I can cram a UNI-PRE 4 knob in there which does have a proper blend in passive. The bass has a battery compartment, so doesn't really need the drop in version.
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Yea, Sadowsky is an option. I like the VTC so I can use tone knob in active and passive mode, but lose any sort of mid control.


There is a significant bump in active volume compared to passive. I took the preamp out to look at it and there is no gain control, so no way to normalize it. I know I could just turn the volume down, but it's just one more thing to have to adjust.

I do like the sound of it passive, so maybe I just rip it out and make it fully passive. K.I.S.S.

I also noticed that the blend it pretty much a 3 way toggle, and not much of a blend.

As long as the weight doesn't bother me, its a keeper!
Personally I’d pull the pre and batteries, get a 3 hole knob plate and wire it up to some CTS pots. Then try the stock pups out first to see if they’re to your liking, honestly I could’ve kept them in their nice sounding passive pups!
 
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I’m not going to touch it for a while so I can get a feel for it. I’ll probably go passive first, I have a preamp pedal on my board, so its not like I’m without EQ.
 

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