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NBD: Proto Precision Bass...on steroids

OK, so a few folks here want to know how I scored the RSD bridge. Simple answer: Dumb luck and coincidence.

I'd pretty much exhausted all avenues (Fender customer service, Stratosphere, Reverb, etc.) and had already resigned myself to using a standard Fender USA High-Mass Bridge for this bass, which I then went ahead and ordered.

One day, I was talking to a fellow musician I know about my bass build and started ranting on about how frustrating it had been trying to locate one of these bridges. He stopped me mid-rant and told me he knew someone who knew someone who knew someone who maybe worked in the Fender Custom Shop and he'd ask about one. I just laughed and said "Well, thanks anyway" because we all know this friend-of-a-friend-of-a-friend stuff always ends up going nowhere.

Except this time. Turns out, he was actually telling the truth and it somehow worked out. Color me happy.
 
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Must....resist...GAS...for TV Jones pups....

I usually don't advise this but in this case, I highly recommend just giving in to the GAS. :D

The clarity and articulation of these pickups are really outstanding. Tight, punchy, kick-you-in-the-gut lows that aren't muddy, wooly or boomy. And highs that are crisp and defined without the clank. Their tone is what got me hooked and made me want to build this bass in the first place.

So go ahead and cave to the GAS-pangs. You won't be sorry.
 
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I think I speak for many when I say this instrument is terrific looking and that WE WANT SOUND CLIPS! :)

Soundclips would be cool.

Folks, I promise clips are on the way. Work has got my stress-o-meter pegged out right now and I gotta do last-minute holiday shopping as well (yeah, I procrastinated a bit this year). But I do want to show everyone what this bass sounds like.

In the meantime, I edited my original post to include Fender's official video of the Proto Precision. It will at least give you an idea of what the bass sounds like in passive mode with the rear pickup alone. Keep in mind that in the video, the bass is strung with flats so my bass has a little more top-end zing with its GHS Pressurewounds. But it should at least hold y'all over until I can record some samples.

Thanks for your patience (and your positive comments).:)
 
Neat! It looks great, and the video of the authentic Fender one sounds fantastic.
Do you know if the bridge pickup position is different than the Carbonita bass?

Thanks.

I also happen to own a Fender Cabronita in Sunburst. I've been contemplating dropping a TV Jones Thunder'Mag in it, but I actually kinda like the sound of the Fender FideliTron, to be perfectly honest.

But to answer your question, yes, the pickup position on the Cabronita is a bit further toward the neck than that of the Proto P. I compared the two a while back and I seem to recall it being somewhere around a half an inch or so. Not a huge difference. Both the Cab and the Proto happen to be at home right now, so I can measure the distance on both basses for you once I get home if that'll help you any. Let me know.
 
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Thanks.

I also happen to own a Fender Cabronita in Sunburst. I've been contemplating dropping a TV Jones Thunder'Mag in it, but I actually kinda like the sound of the Fender FideliTron, to be perfectly honest.

But to answer your question, yes, the pickup position on the Cabronita is a bit further toward the neck than that of the Proto P. I compared the two a while back and I seem to recall it being somewhere around a half an inch or so. Not a huge difference. Both the Cab and the Proto happen to be at home right now, so I can measure the distance on both basses for you once I get home if that'll help you any. Let me know.

No need to measure for my sake, I was just curious. Though I'm sure the info may come in handy for someone someday down the road.

There's been a Cabronita (really? Cab-ron-ita? My brain reads it as Carbon-ita! :)) in the local classifieds for some time. Just kinda curious what it sounds like.
I really like the tone in the video in the OP.
 
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There's been a Cabronita (really? Cab-ron-ita? My brain reads it as Carbon-ita! :)) in the local classifieds for some time.

Yup it's Ca-bro-ní-ta. I think it's Fender's little inside joke wordplay on the Spanish "el cabron". Dunno know for certain, though. But anyway...

Just kinda curious what it sounds like. I really like the tone in the video in the OP.

They're becoming increasingly harder to find now that Fender discontinued them last year. So I'd jump on it if the price is right. As for the sound: sure, the TV Jones PUs sound better. But if anything, you could use it as a platform for a Thunder'Blade or Thunder'Mag if you're not digging the FideliTron (a "poor man's Proto", as it were). I like the sound of it, actually (through my rig, at least).

Here ya go, check it out...

 
I don't usually do "NBD" posts, since most of the stuff I own you've all seen here over and over ad nauseum. But this bass is one that you don't see every day and if you're anything like me, you enjoy seeing cool, unique instruments from fellow bassists.

For those with ADHS or those who want to skip all the minutiae, just scroll down the section entitled "Cliff Notes Version".

So here we go…

Backstory:

A little over a year ago, I was helping out a fellow musician do the final mix on some original material over at his house (the "extra set of ears" thing). He built a super-nice studio in his basement. As we were going through the tracks, I couldn't help but notice how great the bass sounded. I asked him which bass he'd used to record the songs with, because I had trouble ID-ing it by its tone. He went and fetched a tweed case which, when opened, revealed an Arctic White Fender CS Proto Precision Bass. After we were done mixing, he let me have a closer look at it and plug into his GK rig. Man, that thing sounded so great – a unique tone all its own – that I wanted one for myself right there on the spot.

For those of you not familiar with it, here's the official Fender video of the Proto Precision



So the very next day, I scoured the interwebs for a good deal on a Proto P. Heh…Nothing under $3 grand to be had, not even "pre-owned". Then I said to myself, "You know, it's a pretty basic design. You could probably build a bass like this yourself for way less scratch than that." And so it began...

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The Build:

As I was gathering up the components to assemble my Proto P-Bass clone, I thought about how I could possibly increase the tonal capabilities of the bass. I mean, there aren't any hard and fast rules…if I wanted to go beyond just a single pickup and the basic V-T control setup, who was to stop me? So I decided to take it up a notch. I cooked up a two pickup configuration with coil-splitting options (influenced by my EBMM basses) and then decided go even further by adding a preamp to allow active EQing. I still wanted the original Proto Precision tone, however, so I had to ensure that it could run passive with just the V and T controls, in addition to all the other bells and whistles I was planning. Having the passive option also lets you keep using the bass without missing a beat should your battery suddenly die during a gig. A mini-toggle switch situated between the knobs would let me switch between active and passive modes quickly.

Things went relatively smoothly, but for a few hitches. For one, the body supplier couldn't rout for the pickup configuration I wanted ("Umm…we don't have that programmed in the CNC."), so I ended up ordering the body with just the bridge holes drilled and the standard oval control cavity routed. The body is alder with an Arctic White poly finish (just like my buddy's Proto). The pickup cavities, the switch/preamp cavity behind the pickguard and the rear battery compartment were routed after delivery of the body. I measured my buddy's bass for the exact positioning of the rear pickup.

I wanted the TV Jones Thunderblade pickups of course, so when I ordered them, I also ordered the routing template that TV Jones sells at the same time. The folks at TV Jones were great…I wanted the traditional Filter'Tron style covers on my 'Blades so they built the pickups custom for me with the original style covers. I personally think the "blackface" covers they started putting on the Thunder'Blades a couple years back don't look as classy. I liked the old school 'Blades better.

I also had to have a pickguard custom cut to accommodate the front pickup and the blade switch. I supplied Tony at Pickguardian with the specs and he did a terrific job.

Sourcing the bridge (had to have the RSD bridge like on the original) was a pain in the butt, but in the end I managed to finagle one. I wish Fender would just make these bridges available to the general public like they do for pretty much every other bridge they make. Would've made life easier. That said, this bridge is fantastic. Best bass bridge Fender ever designed, IMO. Definitely worth the hassle.

For the neck, I had to compromise a bit. I knew I wasn't going to find a new CS quartersawn, satin finished, '55 P neck anytime soon, but I had the choice of two brand new necks from my stockpile: an MIJ '51P Reissue neck or an MIM Cabronita P-Bass neck. I chose the MIM neck for two reasons. It felt a little more comfy to me than the MIJ and secondly, the truss rod adjustment is at the headstock and not at the heel, which meant I wouldn't have to remove the neck to tweak the rod. Both have a gloss finish, so that wasn't a factor.

I went with a Music Man style 9 Volt battery compartment cover. The chrome cover complements the rest of the bass rather well, and the doors on those plastic compartments always seem to break off after two or three battery changes. I screwed two inserts into the wood to facilitate securing the cover with machine screws. This way, there's no danger of stripping out the threads in the wood. Maybe not entirely necessary, but I believe in idiotproofing.

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In the end, I wound up with a bass whose sound and playability far exceeded my expectations. I A/B'ed the bass with my friend's Proto (both are currently strung with GHS Pressurewounds…fantastic strings, BTW) and in passive mode with just the rear PU, neither of us could tell the difference. Exact same sound. So I achieved what I had set out to do. But I also have a bass with such a broad tonal palette, it'll cover anything from smooth jazz to heavy metal. In passive single coil mode, it'll cop an SCPB tone pretty well. In dual SC mode, it starts moving into Jazz Bass territory. In active mode, it gets in the StingRay ballpark. In one of the images I included here, there's an overview of the controls. It'll give you an idea of the various combinations possible with the bass. But the best part of it is: I was able to build a "Deluxe Proto Precision Bass" for well under half the cost of the original.

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Cliff Notes Version:

I played a Fender CS Proto Precision Bass at a friend's studio, fell in love with it and wanted one. After seeing the price of the CS version had snapped me back to reality, I decided to build my own. I didn't want a one-trick pony, though (although the one trick it does sounds awesome), so I pimped it out with an additional PU, 5-way selector switch with coil-splitting options and a Noll 2-band active preamp. It does everything the Fender original does and much more. It looks and sounds great and is extremely versatile. One of the best sounding basses I've ever owned and I spent well under half of what a CS Proto would have cost new. Win-Win situation. The End.

Hope you enjoy the photos.

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I only discovered this bass (the Fender Proto) recently then found your build - absolutely beautiful. Even though this is a Zombie thread I hope you're still enjoying it!
 
I only discovered this bass (the Fender Proto) recently then found your build - absolutely beautiful.
Thanks for the kind words. I think the Proto P-Basses were great. They're getting harder to find nowadays. I guess everyone who wanted one has gotten a hold of one and has decided to hang onto it.
Even though this is a Zombie thread I hope you're still enjoying it!
Heh... I'd forgotten about this thread myself. But yes, I've still got the bass and it's been serving me well over the past couple of years in the studio, orchestra pit and on live gigs (on rare occasions...I'm still a bit protective of it). The build was well worth it.
 
OK, so a few folks here want to know how I scored the RSD bridge. Simple answer: Dumb luck and coincidence.

I'd pretty much exhausted all avenues (Fender customer service, Stratosphere, Reverb, etc.) and had already resigned myself to using a standard Fender USA High-Mass Bridge for this bass, which I then went ahead and ordered.

One day, I was talking to a fellow musician I know about my bass build and started ranting on about how frustrating it had been trying to locate one of these bridges. He stopped me mid-rant and told me he knew someone who knew someone who knew someone who maybe worked in the Fender Custom Shop and he'd ask about one. I just laughed and said "Well, thanks anyway" because we all know this friend-of-a-friend-of-a-friend stuff always ends up going nowhere.

Except this time. Turns out, he was actually telling the truth and it somehow worked out. Color me happy.
Ummm...could you get me one?...or is that too much to ask?
 
I don't usually do "NBD" posts, since most of the stuff I own you've all seen here over and over ad nauseum. But this bass is one that you don't see every day and if you're anything like me, you enjoy seeing cool, unique instruments from fellow bassists.

I really like that bridge but it's a shame Fender CS doesn't sell them. I doubt they're any better than a regular AmStd bridge but they look cool.