• TalkBass has been independent since 1998. Add your voice.
    Create a free account to reply to discussions, view embedded media, and browse with fewer display ads.
    Join freeLog in
    Want zero display ads or expanded classifieds tools? Compare plans.

NBD / Review: ESP Ltd B-1005 Multi-scale

(Note: What is the exact model name? ESP can't seem to make up their mind. The website calls it a B-1005SE Multiscale. The headstock says B-1005MS Special Edition)

So, this was something of an impulse buy. I used to own a number of basses, but sold off all but my P-Bass during a cash crunch a few years ago - the main victims were my Alembic Epic 6 fretless, and a 5 string Pedulla. I've been wanting a 5 string "hi fi" type bass for a while, and after buying a Strandberg guitar last year have become a huge fan of fanned frets. So, when I came across this new ESP model....well, let's just say the credit card came out pretty quick.

PICS:
Sound sample: (Recorded straight into Audacity via a USB adapter, no EQ, no compression, no amp sim)

The facts:

Strings: 5
Construction: Bolt-on, Wenge with 2 Bubinga stripes, Rosewood board, body is Swamp Ash with a Rosewood top.
Scale Length: 37"-34"
Frets: 24
Pickups: Nordstrand Big Split x2
Electronics: Passive pickups, active/passive EQ
Controls: Vol, Blend, Bass, Mid, Treble, The first toggle swaps the Mid knob from 400 to 800hz, and the 2nd bypasses the active EQ entirely.
Price: $1999 MSRP / $1399 MAP/Street

Sound: This thing has serious balls. Hard to describe really, just listen to the sound sample. It's really growly (although it can be tamed via EQ if you want to), or if you back off a bit technique wise. Think Dave School's tone with Widespread Panic. With the treble boosted just a bit it does the boutiquey thing well. I can get a prog rock Jazz or 4001 type sound. I haven't really experimented with EQ too much yet, it sounds really good just flat, but right now I really dig it with the treble rolled off just a hair, and the blend knob at about 75% on the neck pickup.

The B string is the best I've ever heard on any bass, as you'd expect given the scale length. Fundamental is very present, but it's not at all flabby. Tone is very even over the entire, and intonation is right on. Even at the 24th fret the intonation is out less than 10 semitones on all 5 strings. The B string doesn't get boomy, it's all very balanced, can use the full neck and nothing sounds out of place, boomy, or dead.

Playability: I was a little concerned about the neck since the ESP website described it as "ultra-thing" but i'd call it more of a "regular" thin. Feels pretty much like a typical import bass neck. Nothing to complain about, and with the extra width on a 5 I'd rather be on the thin side. That said, the neck on my Strandberg has spoiled me for regular necks with their trapezoid profile.... but this ain't bad!

The fanned frets are easy to adjust to (I already on a FF guitar, but this is a much more aggressive fan), and feel nice and natural. They got the neutral fret position right, that's important. Frets are typical import jumbo frets. I would prefer something a little lower profile, but again, not terrible at all, and they'll have plenty of life. Action and setup were right on out of the box.

The bolt on neck joint is pretty massive, with 6 bolts, but it's mostly inside the body... the heel doesn't start until the 17th fret and it has a nice rounded profile that provides a nice thumb anchor when playing way up.

Looks: It's....dark. The grain on the rosewood isn't nearly as flashy as on the NAMM demo bass (surprise surprise!), but it isn't unattractive - just a bit plain. No one is going to mistake this for a $5k Fodera. Satin finish feels good in the hand and won't show fingerprints like gloss. Hey, at least it's not A: black or B: Some really yellow "natural" like seemingly ever other import bass. Inlays are nice very colorful mother of pearl. That said, I don't think the positioning of the top dots is ideal...it's fine on the lower frets, but up high the B string basically exactly covers them. I wish that above the 12th fret they were offset to the treble side for better visibility. The hardware is all solid stuff...tuners are Gotoh, bridges are Hipshot, all in black. I do wish the two mini-toggles were black as well - they sort of stand out being the only chrome bits on the bass.

Quality: Bang on. No flaws noted, fretwork is solid, setup was great right out of the box. Electronics are dead silent, the controls have a nice weight, and have great center detents where appropriate. What I've come to expect from the World factory in South Korea (who also make many Schecters, PRE SEs, and many others). They know what they're doing.

Overall: It's a lot of bass for the money. This is absolutely a professional-grade instrument. No corners cut in terms of construction or equipment. There's no other multi-scale bass on the market at this price point and level of quality. ESP didn't quite hit a grand slam with bass (see: Inlay positioning, and top wood), but I'd say they cleared the fences. Multi-scale is starting to go mainstream, and this is a worthy addition.
 
@Das Jugghead asked me for my thoughts on my new bass. Here we go!

tl;dr: YASSSSSSS

Sounds like this: Loop: Spblat's new ESP LTD B-1005MS - Clyp

This was an upgrade from my SR655, which I have sold. No going back! I'm really enjoying it. I was having trouble taming the treble coming out of the Ibanez. It was too bright. Either that or the ESP is too dark. But I really like the tone. It's hard for me to individually categorize the other stuff except to say that you want a bass that feels like it agrees with you. And this bass agrees with me in a big way. I'm definitely having a little trouble finding the harmonics, but I've never been adept at finding them on a standard scale bass anyway. Adjusting to the fanned frets has not been difficult. Indeed, I feel like I'm having an easier time playing in the upper register. I worry about ruining my fretless intonation, which is already not awesome.

The action is to my liking although I should probably give the truss rod a little tweak as the B string doesn't quite have enough room. The neck radius is much larger than the SR655, which is, I think, designed for a more nimble player. I want to play like Jaco but I'm not Jaco and I like how this one feels. Downside: it's pretty heavy.

Other stuff, hmmm. I have "extra long scale" d'addarios on it, and the B is about 1/2" too short for the fat part of the string to sit correctly in the nut. Maybe Dingwall makes strings that fit this beast.

Intonation is an interesting challenge. Bring an accurate tuner and a smallish philips head screwdriver if you go see one. I feel like I have all the strings dialed in correctly except the B. By the 12th fret it's sharp. And I've pulled the saddle as far from the nut as it will go. [Edit: could the missing mass in the last 1/2" be the cause of my intonation problem? Something to investigate!] [Edit 2: d'addario extra long is 38" which is an inch shy. Invalid Link Removed. Come back after I've selected a well-reviewed set that's 39" from ball to taper.]

As you know the Nordstrand pickups are well liked. I haven't yet come to terms with the EQ and I have a couple of noisy EQ pots that did not respond to an initial deoxit treatment, but that's not a big deal and there's a bypass switch. This bass provides a really great range of tone. It'll deliver a nice P sound on the neck, and it has a great jazzy growl on the bridge pickup. The sample above sounds to me like it's just a few % towards the bridge.

AMA!
 
Last edited:
  • Like
Reactions: Das Jugghead
[Edit: could the missing mass in the last 1/2" be the cause of my intonation problem? Something to investigate!] [Edit 2: d'addario extra long is 38" which is an inch shy. Invalid Link Removed. Come back after I've selected a well-reviewed set that's 39" from ball to taper.]
Yeah that did it. I bought Dingwall's 5-string nickel set. The B taper is now behind the nut and the intonation is improved. The B saddle is still fully retracted but I'm not as sharp as I was in the upper register.
 
I have this bass for review, well it's great sounding instrument. I have big problem with nut everytime I go to first position nut eats my meat on first finger they have to make it smaller and rounder. I don't know if it's has to be like this but passive mode is more kicking than active mode, there is more bottom and more volume...no trim inside. Anyway this is realy great instrument!
 
  • Like
Reactions: Spblat
^^ Recommend replacing your battery. My active sound was terrible shortly after getting the B1005se and I was considering selling it or replacing the onboard preamp. A quick battery swap did the trick and all was good after that.

I may need to get another Ibanez SRFF805 because I had custom Nordstrand big splits made for one, then I ended up getting the LTD B1005se. So now I need to sell the custom Big Splits or buy an SRFF805... decisions, decisions lol.
 
[Edit: could the missing mass in the last 1/2" be the cause of my intonation problem? Something to investigate!]

(Engineer here with a strong physics background) - Yes. Even if you get the intonation right on the 12th fret the intonation will be wrong on the other frets. The fret positions were calculated with a uniform mass distribution assumption, so they will be off for this non-uniform distribution. You could compensate on a fretless but it would take a bit of time to adapt.
 
[Edit: could the missing mass in the last 1/2" be the cause of my intonation problem? Something to investigate!]

(Engineer here with a strong physics background) - Yes. Even if you get the intonation right on the 12th fret the intonation will be wrong on the other frets. The fret positions were calculated with a uniform mass distribution assumption, so they will be off for this non-uniform distribution. You could compensate on a fretless but it would take a bit of time to adapt.

@TDSmith: I realize it's been a while since you posted this, but your comment has me concerned about the possible implications for all multiscale basses' intonations having the same issue on the higher frets. Are you implying/stating that this will be an issue on every multiscale bass?

@Spblat Just how sharp are we talking once it gets past the 12th fret? Noticeably obvious or does it take precision testing to make that determination? I'm having trouble deciding which multiscale 5 string bass to invest in. The pickup coverage issues on the Spector Dimension have all but eliminated it, leaving me with either a Dingwall or possibly the ESP and this could be a deal-breaker depending on how it shakes out...

Thanks in advance to either or both of you for responding. ¦-þ
 
Last edited: