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NBM: Harley Benton Enhanced MP-5EB

With all the talk about these, and the price being what it is, Thanksgiving evening I was sitting at my computer alone and it got the best of me...I ordered on of these in the Creme finish. The bass arrived today. While I haven't taken photos of it, it looks just like the others. Here are some quick observations upon unpacking it:
1. Looks good
2. Neck feels good
3. A bit on the heavy side, but not nearly as heavy as some basses I have picked up
4. Needs a truss rod tweak
5. Needs the fret ends cleaned up
6. Needs a set up to play the I play, which is with low action.

First thing I did was tweak the truss rod a bit and was able to get the neck very straight. At this point I plugged it in and thought it sounds pretty good for a $350 bass, but the pickups were level, which did not match the curve of the neck, so I fixed that, and the bass sounds much more even. Got out my neck tools, loosened the B and G strings, and filed down any overhang and then rounded the edges. Now it feels right. The action was still higher then I like, so I lowered each of the saddles, making sure to match the curve of the fingerboard, and then tuned it up. Wow, this things sounds and plays pretty good, but the intonation needs to be fixed. Set the intonation for each string, and checked pickup height. Set the outside edges of the pickups at about the same distance (visually) from the strings, and put a slight upwards peak in the middle of each half of the P pickup. All of this was about an hours worth of my time. I have the tools and know how to do these things, but a pro would probably have it done in less time.

Now I started playing. This bass plays and sounds pretty good. How good does it play...I was able to set the action quite low, almost as low as my Elrick Expat NJS 5, with no fret buzz. With the fret ends cleaned up, it plays really nice, and the neck feels really good (at least to me.)

Sound... I have read a lot of people not liking how this bass sounds stock, but I like it. To me, the P pickup sounds like a P pickup, though it little bit bassier, which I think comes from being reversed. I have played many basses with MM pickups that sound nothing like a MM, but this one does. (Maybe they fixed some issues that others may have had, but mine as a MM vibe to the sound.) Just to be sure my ears were not playing games with me, I grabbed another bass that has the same pickup configuration, an Exlusive (Samick built Italian designed P style bass from about 10 years ago) which sounds nothing like a Sting Ray. The Harley Benton and the Exlusive sound nothing like each other. The MM pickup in the Exlusive is big, full and bassy, even when coil tapped. The MM pickup in the Harley Benton both rings and sings. Do the pickups in the HB sound like a set of Barts? No. But to me, no other pickup brand sounds like Barts. Do they sound like cheap pickups? Honestly, to me, they don't.

Right now I am thinking, "I really like this bass, and I can't wait to gig with it."

My two cents worth...
 
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With all the talk about these, and the price being what it is, Thanksgiving evening I was sitting at my computer alone and it got the best of me...I ordered on of these in the Creme finish. The bass arrived today. While I haven't taken photos of it, it looks just like the others. Here are some quick observations upon unpacking it:
1. Looks good
2. Neck feels good
3. A bit on the heavy side, but not nearly as heavy as some basses I have picked up
4. Needs a truss rod tweak
5. Needs the fret ends cleaned up
6. Needs a set up to play the I play, which is with low action.

First thing I did was tweak the truss rod a bit and was able to get the neck very straight. At this point I plugged it in and thought it sounds pretty good for a $350 bass, but the pickups were level, which did not match the curve of the neck, so I fixed that, and the bass sounds much more even. Got out my neck tools, loosened the B and G strings, and filed down any overhang and then rounded the edges. Now it feels right. The action was still higher then I like, so I lowered each of the saddles, making sure to match the curve of the fingerboard, and then tuned it up. Wow, this things sounds and plays pretty good, but the intonation needs to be fixed. Set the intonation for each string, and checked pickup height. Set the outside edges of the pickups at about the same distance (visually) from the strings, and put a slight upwards peak in the middle of each half of the P pickup. All of this was about an hours worth of my time. I have the tools and know how to do these things, but a pro would probably have it done in less time.

Now I started playing. This bass plays and sounds pretty good. How good does it play...I was able to set the action quite low, almost as low as my Elrick Expat NJS 5, with no fret buzz. With the fret ends cleaned up, it plays really nice, and the neck feels really good (at least to me.)

Sound... I have read a lot of people not liking how this bass sounds stock, but I like it. To me, the P pickup sounds like a P pickup, though it little bit bassier, which I think comes from being reversed. I have played many basses with MM pickups that sound nothing like a MM, but this one does. (Maybe they fixed some issues that others may have had, but mine as a MM vibe to the sound.) Just to be sure my ears were not playing games with me, I grabbed another bass that has the same pickup configuration, an Exlusive (Samick built Italian designed P style bass from about 10 years ago) which sounds nothing like a Sting Ray. The Harley Benton and the Exlusive sound nothing like each other. The MM pickup in the Exlusive is big, full and bassy, even when coil tapped. The MM pickup in the Harley Benton both rings and sings. Do the pickups in the HB sound like a set of Barts? No. But to me, no other pickup brand sounds like Barts. Do they sound like cheap pickups? Honestly, to me, they don't.

Right now I am thinking, "I really like this bass, and I can't wait to gig with it."

My two cents worth...

This bass is on my radar. It really seems like a great budget option.
 
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The only negative comment that I have, once the fret ends were cleaned up, and everything was set up, is the weight. It reminds me of what I remember a Peavey T-40 feels like. Not the heaviest bass around, but not a light weight.

As far as a good budget option... I think it sounds and plays as good, or maybe better, depending on taste, as most Squiers. Some of the Harley Benton models have/had direct parallels with some of the upper level rhondomusic.com basses, as HB had a version of rondo's "Freak" bass for a while. The "Progressive" model bass looks to be the same bass that guitarfetish.com offers. The HB "Freak" style bass was a little cheaper (cost) than the rondomusic bass, the HB "Progressive" bass is about half of what these "Enhanced Series" models cost. When I think of good budget options, I think of the TBC line from about 15 years ago, but if I recall, a five string TBC sold for $450, which is a bit more then the HB. The TBC is lighter, due to the fact that it is chambered (actually, if you closely at one, their are constructed a lot like an old Dano bass, expect all out of hardwood.), but I would also argue that like the HB, the pickups and preamp were often cited as being the weak point.
 
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The only negative comment that I have, once the fret ends were cleaned up, and everything was set up, is the weight. It reminds me of what I remember a Peavey T-40 feels like. Not the heaviest bass around, but not a light weight.

As far as a good budget option... I think it sounds and plays as good, or maybe better, depending on taste, as most Squiers. Some of the Harley Benton models have/had direct parallels with some of the upper level rhondomusic.com basses, as HB had a version of rondo's "Freak" bass for a while. The "Progressive" model bass looks to be the same bass that guitarfetish.com offers. The HB "Freak" style bass was a little cheaper (cost) than the rondomusic bass, the HB "Progressive" bass is about half of what these "Enhanced Series" models cost. When I think of good budget options, I think of the TBC line from about 15 years ago, but if I recall, a five string TBC sold for $450, which is a bit more then the HB. The TBC is lighter, due to the fact that it is chambered (actually, if you closely at one, their are constructed a lot like an old Dano bass, expect all out of hardwood.), but I would also argue that like the HB, the pickups and preamp were often cited as being the weak point.

I'd say that it plays way above a Squier. I play a custom Warrior, and although it's not on that level, I'd put it up against a Fender MIM any day, and would probably prefer it. Just my two cents.
 
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I play a custom Warrior, and although it's not on that level, I'd put it up against a Fender MIM any day, and would probably prefer it.

My main basses are a custom made Andrew Drake headless 5 and an Elrick Expat NJS5, or for places where there is a lot of smoke, a Kelly Element 5 with a passive tone control added in. The HB is more versatile than the Kelly and plays almost (yes, there is a difference) as good as the others. I have played Lakland Skyline P's that are as heavy as my HB, and don't play any better.
 
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My main basses are a custom made Andrew Drake headless 5 and an Elrick Expat NJS5, or for places where there is a lot of smoke, a Kelly Element 5 with a passive tone control added in. The HB is more versatile than the Kelly and plays almost (yes, there is a difference) as good as the others. I have played Lakland Skyline P's that are as heavy as my HB, and don't play any better.

I agree about the Lakland Skyline, as mine seems to be about the same weight as the HB too. It's certainly not on the the level of my custom Kiesel P, but I'd rock it on any stage.
 
Mine is the P version. It is supposed to have an alder body, and I have picked up alder boards that are quite heavy heavy and some that are not. A simple trip to a Mennards (which does have planned alder boards) can confirm this. I was hoping my would be lighter, but it is what it is.
 
Has anyone exchanged the stock pickups with better ones? I'd like to find some reasonably priced ones (not going the 10 dollars aliexpress way tho ) and while I'm at that I would like to move the humbucker next to the P , to have the two classic sounds , no matter if it loses the combined pu's effect. I'm all ears for advices.

Sorry for necroing this thread but it's weird that there hasn't been any comments in 5 years while these bad boys are still being sold. I have a MP-4 in natural finish with EMG P/MMCS pickups and a LHZ-05 preamp (Spector hazlabs clone)+ an EMG active balance pot. It's also tuned to BEAD and this thing sounds GOOD. Granted it's 500€ of electronics in a 200€ body but it's better finished than my former Spector Icon which was 4 times the price. My only "issue" is that the MM pickup is too warm sounding so I can't just dime the bass knob on the preamp even with fresh stainless strings. Thinking on modding this bad boy into a PJ or a double reversed P. And maybe get a Creme one because I'm in love with that finish
 
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