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NCAA Week 9

I don't know if this a critique on USC's 69-0 pasting of Wazzou or not, but if you saw this game, USC did everything they could NOT to run up the score.
Not a criticism at all. Of course they put in their bottom players, but those players are trying to score. That's not quite EVERYTHING you can do to keep from scoring, which technically would be taking 3 knees and punting every possession. But I don't fault anyone for this. I think USC has to blow out teams in their conference. It does show how good they are. No problem for me.

I'd gladly watch USC play Florida, Bama, LSU or Georgia during the regular season. USC has shown a willingness to play meaningful out of conference games, which equates to showing the strength of the program. Rag on Ohio State all you want, but at least they had the stones to step up and play a home-and-home series.
I don't think it's a matter of stones. SEC teams used to do this as the norm. But adding more regular season games along with a championship game really makes it tough to schedule stiff non-conference games. OSU in the Big-10 hardly compares to the SEC or the Big-12 for that matter. I'd like to see a matchup just for the fun of it, but a single game doesn't really tell us anything. I keep saying that I think USC could easily compete in the SEC along with Florida, LSU, Georgia and Bama on any given day. Having to do it all season long is what makes the conference tough. Simply scheduling a home-and-home series doesn't appeal to me as much as it used to. It's more exciting to me to see the teams meet up in a bowl game.

I like the Trojans as much as I like any non-SEC team...probalby more than any other. I think Pete is a great coach who is aggressive yet still classy. They have a great program out there. I wish them all the best. It's the PAC-10 that I think is horrible. But USC can't help that, so they go out there and kill those teams whenever they can. I think it's all good, and a necessary evil at least in that league.
 
It's nice to see that somebody who's an SEC guy appreciates USC. What especially hurts the Trojans is that their rivalry with Notre Dame, which usually had NC implications in past decades, is a non-factor until the Irish get it back together.

I see your point about strength of SEC schedule, as there are usually 3-4 teams every year that are Top 10 squads, but every single team in that conference isn't top-tier. I'd also agree with you 100% if all SEC teams played against each other, but Bama doesn't play Florida in regular season, etc. (although they will in December in the Championship.)

I absolutely agree that a bowl game matchup is more appealing than a home-and-home, provided your team doesn't get stuck with a Big 10 romp year in and year out.
 
I don't know if this a critique on USC's 69-0 pasting of Wazzou or not, but if you saw this game, USC did everything they could NOT to run up the score.

I'm a rabid Trojan fan (as you're probably aware), and I fell asleep watching this game, that's how one-sided it was. The Cougar defense was non-existent; the Trojan offense scored like it was pre-game warmups. USC was playing the fourth-string by the 4th quarter. I read somewhere that Jeff Sagarin had Washington State rated #135, which is appalling, considering there are only 119 D-1 teams.

I'd gladly watch USC play Florida, Bama, LSU or Georgia during the regular season. USC has shown a willingness to play meaningful out of conference games, which equates to showing the strength of the program. Rag on Ohio State all you want, but at least they had the stones to step up and play a home-and-home series.
I agree with Jason's thoughts, on both OSU and the scoring. The BCS makes it essential that teams ring up big numbers when they can. If you don't make the top two in early December, that's basically it.

I'm shocked to hear about that Sagarin ranking. I thought he ranked the Pac Ten teams 1-10 nationally every week.:D
 
I think Georgia will show everybody why they were ranked so high in the preseason this week. I also believe they will expose LSU for what they really are. 42-21 Georgia

You're a Tennessee fan, right?

...that explains your lack of ability to use reason and logic, you've been watching Fulmer "coach" for too long...

:D

...dream on, LSU may not win, but there ain't no way they go down by that kind of score, it will be close, 7 point win at the most for whoever comes out on top in this one.

...try breathing again, that lack of oxygen to your brain could cause permanent damage...

;)
 
I wonder if Notre Dame will ever regain their previous status as a top tier team. I think they'll be good every so often, but I also think it'll be harder and harder for a Catholic school to recruit the players they need in today's environment. Parity and media coverage means a player can go most anywhere to advance his sports career, and I just doubt many of the best players will want to go to a Catholic school to do it.
 
I don't know if it's so much being a Catholic school as it is being a school in northern Indiana. Why go there, when there are so many good programs in warmer weather? Also, from what I understand, the academics are fairly rigorous in South Bend.

Exclusive NBC contract aside, I also think that being an independent hurts. Not so much the case 20 years ago, with schools like Miami, FSU and Penn State indy, but today the Irish are on an island. They should join the Big 11 and be done with it.
 
I should rephrase. It's not just that it's Catholic, but that it's a religious school, a staunchly religious school, with religious curriculum required for those who attend. I think that would be a detraction for anyone who doesnt already have a Catholic bent.
 
I wonder if Notre Dame will ever regain their previous status as a top tier team. I think they'll be good every so often, but I also think it'll be harder and harder for a Catholic school to recruit the players they need in today's environment. Parity and media coverage means a player can go most anywhere to advance his sports career, and I just doubt many of the best players will want to go to a Catholic school to do it.

I don't know. I almost feel bad for them. I have a feeling Mr. W's days are numbered.

I was fortunate enough to be in the L.A. Coliseum the night 'SC broke the Domer streak and handed Lou Holtz his last loss as a coach. SWEEET!
 
I don't know. I almost feel bad for them. I have a feeling Mr. W's days are numbered.
I don't feel bad for them at all. I can't stand Notre Dame, nor the media love for them. It has nothing to do with them being Catholic. I just think they get more attention than they deserve.

I think their history as a dominant school will remain just that. Back in their time, conservatism and religion helped give them a big boost. Those days are fading, and I think it'll be increasingly difficult for them to compete with secular schools. I could be wrong. I don't wish them ill will or anything for that reason.

I was fortunate enough to be in the L.A. Coliseum the night 'SC broke the Domer streak and handed Lou Holtz his last loss as a coach. SWEEET!
Haha, that would have been cool. I wonder how much more time Lou has on ESPN. Surely they could get someone better than him to be a permanent addition to their NCAA coverage team. At least someone who you can understand. Just more Notre Dame love. Drives me crazy.
 
I don't think it's a matter of stones. SEC teams used to do this as the norm. But adding more regular season games along with a championship game really makes it tough to schedule stiff non-conference games. OSU in the Big-10 hardly compares to the SEC or the Big-12 for that matter. I'd like to see a matchup just for the fun of it, but a single game doesn't really tell us anything. I keep saying that I think USC could easily compete in the SEC along with Florida, LSU, Georgia and Bama on any given day. Having to do it all season long is what makes the conference tough. Simply scheduling a home-and-home series doesn't appeal to me as much as it used to. It's more exciting to me to see the teams meet up in a bowl game.

exactly
 
I don't know if it's so much being a Catholic school as it is being a school in northern Indiana. Why go there, when there are so many good programs in warmer weather? Also, from what I understand, the academics are fairly rigorous in South Bend.

I don't think the weather affects recruits as much as people say. Seems to me that OSU always get a top 10 of some sort.

As far as rigorous academics in ND, I know a highly recruited player from my HS that was offered a full ride with an 18 on the ACT (When ND required a 25 at the time). Football players get exceptions. I'm also sure that the religious classes count towards some elective BS credit that we all had to take.

The #1 problem for ND is that they need a conference. I know they play USC every year but they are not doing anything for themselves by playing the military academies.
 

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