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NCD: Going heavy (vintage Bergantino content)

ad9000

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Like most everyone else here I've been going almost entirely with lightweight cabinets these days, but when a Bergantino IP 310 in great condition popped up in the TB classifieds locally I got curious and had to check it out. Somehow the IP cabinets were not on my radar when they came out (late 2000's) although I did own a couple of other Berg cabinets from that era. My favorite was actually the NV212T. Anyway, I pulled the trigger on the IP 310, and after using it on a few gigs now I'm very happy I did. The weight was a concern - it's 85 lbs., but somehow it's been pretty manageable to move around, especially since the previous owner swapped out the wheels for some larger heavy duty ones. It's also a good size to maneuver in and out of the back of my car, and with the padded cover on I can slide it on the bumper, which is helpful.

I have never owned a powered cabinet before, but it is a pretty interesting concept. The internal amp puts out 1000w into 4 ohms (3 12-ohm drivers), which is a very generous amount of power - no lack of headroom, to say the least. It has a lot of deep bottom - I've had to dial back the low end considerably compared to typical settings. The overall character of the cab might be considered "studio-like", but it can be influenced toward a more grindy or rounder direction depending on the preamp and pedals used. The only actual preamp I own right now is a Kern, which sounds really good with the IP. I haven't used it on my gigs yet though, because the music for the most part called for a drier, more modern sound. When I got the cab I threw pretty much everything in my possession into the mix, which included the Kern, a Noble preamp, a Radial Bassbone, and sending a line out from my Quilter BB heads. The Bassbone didn't provide quite enough gain to be usable, although it did sound good. The Noble sounded great, as you'd expect, but surprisingly what I ended up liking the best was the Quilter BB802, via the post-EQ line out. On the very last gig I used the Quilter BB803 instead (pictured), and it was a little nondescript in comparison to the BB802. Basses used on the gigs so far have been an Alleva Coppolo LG5, a Bluesman Vintage El Dorado V (pictured) and briefly a Yamaha TRB-6P. On my next gig tomorrow (different band) I will try the Kern.

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congrats on the IP 310! great score!

Not a powered IP cab, but one of my faves is the sealed NV212t with ceramic drivers. This cab sounds outstanding, but weighs in at 70lbs (no wheels).
Generally when I need to bring a "bigger" cab, I will opt for the 46lb CN212, or even more commonly the 28lb CN112. The CN cabs are great for sure, but I really love the NV212t ... I just have to REALLY want it on a gig to decide to haul that much cab weight.

For me, any gig that requires a big rig, it's usually a full backline and big pro PA gig, so these days I generally don't haul big rigs.

I've been considering a powered FRFRish cab myself. Looking at BagEnd and Accugroove powered cabs with some interest.
 
Not a powered IP cab, but one of my faves is the sealed NV212t with ceramic drivers. This cab sounds outstanding, but weighs in at 70lbs (no wheels).
I really miss my NV212T - I sold it because of the weight, and after going through a couple of lightweight cabs that just didn't do it for me, a couple of years later I end up acquiring a cab that's 15 lbs. heavier. Lame.. I'd probably buy another NV212T if I found one locally.
 
Yep... congratulations...I picked up an ip112/112 stack last year and it was revelational. It's so crisp, punchy, and 3-dimensional. I recommend the Berg Super Pre not for the tone (though I like it just fine), but for the room control options like the feedback filter. It will clean up any rogue room frequency, and makes the rig even more punchy and beefy without any low end pollution.
 
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I recommend the Berg Super Pre not for the tone (though I like it just fine), but for the room control options like the feedback filter. It will clean up any rogue room frequency, and makes the rig even more punchy and beefy without any low end pollution.
I've been curious about those.. Those are definitely features that would be useful. I appreciate the tip, I'll check it out!
 
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@ad9000 congrats on the IP310 acquisition!

I’ve not played thru an IP cab to date, but have owned about every Bergantino cab, beginning with CN series—>. Kept trying to talk myself into loving the lighter neo’s, but always drifted back to the heavier ceramic stuff.

Sealed ceramic’s are definitely my jam (currently own 2x NV610T’s)…discovered that a-n-y Bergantino cab beginning with “NV” works well for me! Pretty sure I’d enjoy the IP series, too. : )
 
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Nice thread. The IP310 and the entire IP series were in many ways, ahead of their time. They were a true FRFR cab before FRFR ever became a thing.
Jim -- what are the chances of servicing the power modules on the IP 310? The two above are my friend's, I am getting the other one. Intermittent issues supposedly, but I can't replicate yet. We replaced the tweeter

Was glorious testing them with stereo effects, Meris EnzoX, H90 and Source Audio pedals. With an upright and bow, and 6 string bass and Baritone guitar, tuned Half-Nashville and my synths, Oh my
 
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Ok, an update after doing another gig yesterday, this time with the Kern preamp going into the IP310:
What a great sound - creamy highs, authoritative midrange and fat, enveloping but not tubby low end. Bass wasn't going into a front of house system and onstage monitors like my previous gigs this week, so I could really hear what the rig was doing. After some experimentation with the tone controls on the Kern and the tweeter level on the cab it was really singing by the end of the gig. I did try the preamp section of the Quilter BB802 on part of one set for comparison (via post-EQ line out), and it was clear and articulate but definitely not as musical as the Kern.

I am a happy camper, and still no sore back. Fortunately the load-ins have all been pretty easy - and level. The Demeter Minnie 800D power amp was not in use, I just don't have another smaller rack yet to put the Kern in alone.


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