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If performed enough, a fretless bass would emerge...
In my experience, it can also relate to the weight of the guitar body. If the material used for the body is a lightweight timber, then the neck can also have a tendency to dive towards the floor if it's slightly heavier than the body.
I had 2 guitars, same manufacturer, same body shape, same layout, same strap button positions, etc., but one had a basswood body & bolt maple neck, the other a mahogany body & set maple neck. The mahogany bodied guitar balanced beautifully when it was hung on a strap, where the basswood version seriously suffered from neck dive. Didn't keep it long, still have the mahogany bodied guitar.
Exactly, the Gibson SG is notorious for the heavy neck and light body. Flying V, Explorer, and the ES335 also had a bit of neck dive, but nowhere as much as the SG. That's one of the reasons why I gravitated to the Strat. Nevertheless, I too never heard the term neck dive until converting to Bass guitar and seeing the term used here. With guitar, neck dive is not much of a problem on guitars weighing less than 8lbs, but on a bass that weighs 9+ lbs Neck dive can be a problem.
Be careful of imports from Asia. I got a really good deal on a nice 5-string bass. Neck was real solid heavy wood. Body was cheap light particle board. It pointed directly to the country where it was manufactured.
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The next time this happens to me, I'm going to tell my wife it's neck dive. Because the neck is too heavy. We'll see if she buys it.
Neck dive is a conspiracy theory invented by the wide strap manufacturers.
To alleviate neckdive, search "adding tungsten to a bass body."
Mallory metal works better.
Actually no they don't, if you actually want to play one. Most of us T-Birders move the strap button to back of neck heel. Yep, that does it.
What @Count Bassie says.
Also if your TBird is diving, then your strap is too short.
Also if your TBird is diving, then your strap is too short.
I have a Guild Starfire from the late 60's. Have to wear a suede strap, even then the head wants to fall.
But, the sound that comes out of that bass. They don't make 'em like they used to. Of course, depending - that could be bad or good.
But, the sound that comes out of that bass. They don't make 'em like they used to. Of course, depending - that could be bad or good.
Have you ever owned and played one?
MAN! You T-Bird fellas are quite a band of brothers! When one of you see's your bass or your brother in trouble, the rest of you come out to support and defend. You're like a friggin' biker gang!
*<RESPECT>*
As a token of goodwill towards the T-Bird Nation... allow me to present what I'm fairly certain is a great deal on a sexy a$$ piece:
RAINBOW MUSIC | CONTACT SALES REPRESENTATIVE
Rainbow Music is the last good "mom & pop" shop in the Grand Rapids area since GC came to town & ran 'em all out of business. Pete & John own & operate the place themselves. Pete is the only solid, trustworthy guitar/bass doctor in our area. Refrets, neck shaves, headstock injuries, electronics... the man is Merlin, Einstein, & Superfly all wrapped up into one! I wouldn't hesitate to leave a $15,000.00 guitar or bass in his hands for major surgery!
Anyhooooo... that T-Bird is absolutely FLAWLESS!!! if any of you guys have any interest in it, or anything else you see on their website, I'll be happy to help facilitate however I can (additional pics, questions, or whatever.)
I know the link says "contact service rep". Don't worry about that. It'll show you the bass without making you contact anybody.
MAN! You T-Bird fellas are quite a band of brothers! When one of you see's your bass or your brother in trouble, the rest of you come out to support and defend. You're like a friggin' biker gang!
As a token of goodwill towards the T-Bird Nation... allow me to present what I'm fairly certain is a great deal on a sexy a$$ piece:
RAINBOW MUSIC | CONTACT SALES REPRESENTATIVE
Rainbow Music is the last good "mom & pop" shop in the Grand Rapids area since GC came to town & ran 'em all out of business. Pete & John own & operate the place themselves. Pete is the only solid, trustworthy guitar/bass doctor in our area. Refrets, neck shaves, headstock injuries, electronics... the man is Merlin, Einstein, & Superfly all wrapped up into one! I wouldn't hesitate to leave a $15,000.00 guitar or bass in his hands for major surgery!
Anyhooooo... that T-Bird is absolutely FLAWLESS!!! if any of you guys have any interest in it, or anything else you see on their website, I'll be happy to help facilitate however I can (additional pics, questions, or whatever.)
I know the link says "contact service rep". Don't worry about that. It'll show you the bass without making you contact anybody.
It's a problem with blanket statements when the Bird is disrespected.
Understood
I've always loved the T-Bird. Especially that gorgeous dark sunburst! About a week after i first started on bass, I decided the T-Bird was the way I was gonna go. Around a month ago, I went down to Rainbow & picked the one up that's in the link I posted. I was saddened the moment I picked it up. I just could not get comfortable with it. The shape of the upper rear portion of the body, kept me from resting my right forearm in a comfortable or functional way. Perhaps after a few years of playing, I could adapt, but for right now... no Thunderbird for me
Understood
I've always loved the T-Bird. Especially that gorgeous dark sunburst! About a week after i first started on bass, I decided the T-Bird was the way I was gonna go. Around a month ago, I went down to Rainbow & picked the one up that's in the link I posted. I was saddened the moment I picked it up. I just could not get comfortable with it. The shape of the upper rear portion of the body, kept me from resting my right forearm in a comfortable or functional way. Perhaps after a few years of playing, I could adapt, but for right now... no Thunderbird for me
It's ok man, you're first thread about playing bass explained what you were up against ergo wise.
Also understood.
Yes on both accounts even though its a goth it still has neck dive I still enjoy playing it.
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