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NEED HELP MULTI TRACK RECORDING

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Perry bp

Apr 5, 2011
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#1
I have a behringer xenyx 2442fx and i want to record multiple tracks at once onto cubase 6.
What i need is a sound card that i can run between the mixer and my computer that will have enough ins and outs and work well with windows 7.
also any suggestions on which outputs on my mixer to use with the new sound card
 
#3
It's a pretty safe bet that any mixer with "USB recording capabilities" is probably only going to record the main outs.
You would probably be better off going with a dedicated audio interface.
Does the mixer you have feature direct outs on every channel?
 
#4
The mixer has a main out for every mono input so there are 8 direct out put.
and yes it does have a usb output but it records all channels together as a stero track i think so i need some thing so i can record all 8 input as 8 tracks not 1/2
 
#5
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Features listed include:
Channel inserts and direct outputs on each mono channel plus main mix inserts for flexible connection of outboard equipment
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So, you can output each channel to an interface. Such as your mixer -> Presonus -> Firewire -> Computer.

You don't quite have the right tool for the job. If you want to mix live from the board, your USB interface sounds like the deal you want . . . . I doubt it does full individual tracks. The specs say:

While many of our competitors force you to buy a separate card to connect to your computer, we’ve included superb USB connectivity with each and every XENYX 2442FX. No drivers to download, no complicated setup routines, just plug the included UCA200 2-input/2-output USB/Audio Interface into your Windows or Mac computer and start tracking!
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If it were able to also serve as an audio interface for all 8 tracks, it would probably come with Firewire.

So, what you need is about $400.
 
#7
Ok,I posted I didn;t know how many channels at once it could record.
I saw a multimix 8 usb 2.0 that can record 8 channels PLUS stereo input,making 10 at once.
I assume the alesis 16 channels can also record as many channels.
 
#9
darius8 said:
I think you would also need the software or DAW that will support an 8 track simultaneous recording. Not to mention a CPU powerful enough to do all the processing. Do I dare say you might need disk space for direct-to-disk recording or the RAM.
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Any computer that is capable of running Windows 7 will have ample CPU and memory for recording eight tracks at once! The OP also has the software he would need (Cubase 6).
 
#11
I personally use a Invalid Link Removed 16-channel USB interface, into a laptop running Windows 7, with Sonar X1.

The limitation is not so much the CPU power, as the interface of choice, and whether you intend on live tracking of the sound (bouncing the mixed sound back from your PC to the PA system).

With this unit, I can record all channels simultaneously at full resolution... but with a significant caveat. I need to configure my PC to absolutely not interfere with the USB bus or the hard drive writing speed. If I do not, the recording will be interrupted.

What does this mean? Configure your PC to turn off ALL un-needed services (yes, temporarily disable Windows Update, your virus scanner, defragment before you start then disable the service, disable your wireless and network cards, etc.). Turn off Aero, and in fact turn off all UI enhancements. Etc. With this config, I regularly record 8 microphones and 3 line-level devices, and obtain 11 uninterrupted 4-hour long tracks of our jam sessions for later slicing and massaging. (I turn everything back on after a reboot).

This unit cost under $400 used. YMMV

But ultimately, the 2442FX is an analog mixer... and there lies the problem, since your stated requirements are to be able to record separate digital channels.

Ah well.
Dekker
 
#13
Yes, the ASIO driver supplied by Tascam does that. It allows me to record all channels independently.

The nice thing about recording the session as one long 4-hour session is I can just reach over to the laptop and hit "M" to create a marker flag in the session, and when mixing the next day, I can go to that marker and extract the nugget of music that I thought was great (or whatever). As opposed to starting-and-stopping for each song that is...

And your previous comment about disk space is correct... At full resolution, each track is about 1GB (for 4 hours), so that's up to 16GB per week. Fills up the laptop hard drive in about a year, and then I have to purge...

And one more thing - regardless of which interface you use to record, if you are just recording (and not feeding studio monitors or the like) then use the highest latency. You'll get fewer problems than if you try to tweak for the lowest latency.
 
#16
hay guys i resorted to running my instruments through a boss br 800 and using it as a interface to my computer veer usb, but i am getting a annoying high pitched noise when the usb is connected, does any one know how i can stop this?
 
#17
I was going to buy that exact board but didn't for that same reason, instead I got a focusrite saffire pro 40.... Better preamps by far, it's got 8 outs, and a FireWire out.... Just recorded my drummer in pro tools... 8 dedicated tracks right from the FireWire.... Came out sounding crisp and it's only an extra $100 or so... ( b & h, the camera shop sells it for $450.... Every other retailer sells it for $500. Guitar center matched the price and took an additional 10% off and I walked away with it for just about thhe tax free price.... I would look into exchanging it if you can.
 
#19
Been using this same mixer for a few years and using the direct outs to a Digi 001 in the beginning to now a Digi 003 and using protools....

Any "8 in" interface will do the trick. Or if you don't need that many channels you could try something with six, or also 2 x 6 would get you 12.... You'd have to get creative though for the last 4 channels, as only 8 have the direct out.

Mixer not in front of me, but you can tap the channels from the inserts, and of course could also use effects sends or subgroups too.

I've found this mixer to be fine for quick and dirty stuff, it has served us very well to record our jams and rehearsal sessions to be used as a learning tool and to capture the good stuff so we don't forget.

The USB thing, well you can do anything post mix with that.

CM
 
#20
Perry bp said:
hay guys i resorted to running my instruments through a boss br 800 and using it as a interface to my computer veer usb, but i am getting a annoying high pitched noise when the usb is connected, does any one know how i can stop this?
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May not be related, but I've encountered high pitch noise when using a wireless mouse. I'd test (by eliminating) wireless components in the environment one at at time to see if any are the culprit, including: mice, keyboards, network, phone, etc.
 

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