Need help regarding string rattle,possible truss rod adjustment,and string alignment!

Discussion in 'Hardware, Setup & Repair [BG]' started by rhcpbassist, Jul 8, 2013.

  1. rhcpbassist

    rhcpbassist

    Jul 7, 2013
    Hello there, i recently installed new mighty mite machine heads and a new bridge and as i re-strung my bass today, i realized that the open E and A rattled alot and i could not make the note sound on the first fret of the A string. I noticed that the strings near the first fret were really low and i tried raising the action but nothing happens. I think it is in need of a truss rod adjustment because i did hammer in one machine head (yeah i know it was a bad idea) and i'm guessing that might have messed with the truss rod and caused the strings to be so close to the first fret. I don't think it is the nut because i had other machine heads installed with the same nut and they were fine. I also noticed that my E string is not in the middle of the two poles on the pickups. I was wondering on how i can fix this? Thank You much appreciated. SAM_1131_zps9d4a4904.jpg SAM_1130_zpsb2debcd9.jpg SAM_1129_zpsff5db29b.jpg SAM_1128_zpsdb535f03.jpg SAM_1127_zpsb6580c4e.jpg SAM_1124_zps243cce66.jpg
     
  2. FunkMetalBass

    FunkMetalBass

    Aug 5, 2005
    Phoenix, Arizona 85029
    Endorsing Artist: J.C. Basses
    Unless you plan on keeping this as a 2-string bass, you should wait until all 4 strings are on before adjusting the action and truss rod.

    The strings are going to add another 80 pounds (or so) of tension to the neck, which will correct most of the issue for you.
     
  3. SamanthaCay

    SamanthaCay Like bass guitar OMG!

    Nov 16, 2008
    Denver, CO.
    ^This^
     
  4. rhcpbassist

    rhcpbassist

    Jul 7, 2013
    alright and in the event that it does not work, what should i do?
     
  5. Please take FMB's suggestions to heart; you're putting the cart before the horse.
     
  6. FunkMetalBass

    FunkMetalBass

    Aug 5, 2005
    Phoenix, Arizona 85029
    Endorsing Artist: J.C. Basses
    That will depend on the nature of the problem. The neck will often continue to bend for a few hours after you install the new strings.

    Once that initial settling period has taken place, fret the first fret with your left hand and the 15th fret with your right hand (same string) and take a look at the gap between the string and the frets. This will show you the amount of relief in your neck, and it should be adjusted as you see fit.

    After that's done, go after the action at the bridge.
     
  7. rhcpbassist

    rhcpbassist

    Jul 7, 2013
    Alright that fixed it lol but now i just need to know how to get the strings in the middle of each pickup pole
     
  8. Your E and A strings are aligned correctly already. They want to be centered between the poles, as they are.
     
  9. rhcpbassist

    rhcpbassist

    Jul 7, 2013
    well my g string is not
     
  10. If you get threaded rod saddles, you'll be able to position the strings wherever you want.
     
  11. alexgeddy

    alexgeddy Supporting Member

    Feb 25, 2007
    NJ
    Just an observation ..on your E string pic the wrap is not right...The last part of the wrap should be on the bottom of the string post.. Really important for Fender style necks on the E and Specially the A string.. Probably won't fix the fretted string rattle but will definitely cause an open string rattle at the nut!!

    Bill
     
  12. soflbass

    soflbass

    Mar 2, 2013
    S Florida
    +2
     
  13. 96tbird

    96tbird PLEASE STAND BY

    This. What's with the big wad of string on the tuner? ;) nice wraps from top to bottom, NO Overlapping! Now you know.

    And yep, all strings need to be in before you worry about rattling.
     
  14. FunkMetalBass

    FunkMetalBass

    Aug 5, 2005
    Phoenix, Arizona 85029
    Endorsing Artist: J.C. Basses
    Loosen your strings, loosen the neck bolts slightly, and push the neck toward the direction you need the G-string to move. Tighten it up and you should be good. This is a
    common and easily-fixed problem with some bolt-ons.
     
  15. soflbass

    soflbass

    Mar 2, 2013
    S Florida
    This, with a caveat - the 4 strings should be centered on the fretboard. I would be more concerned about that than the pole pieces lining up perfectly. Could it be possible that when you re-strung the bridge the saddles are shifted to one side more than the other, ever so slightly?

    See typical pictures
    Fender-Jazz-Bass-Pickups_zpsbbf20489.jpg
    Fender-2012-American-Standard-Jazz-Bass-thumb-200x200_zpsbe3866aa.jpg
     
  16. 96tbird

    96tbird PLEASE STAND BY

    Yep, will help a lot.
     
  17. JLS

    JLS Supporting Member

    Sep 12, 2008
    Albuquerque, NM
    I setup & repair guitars & basses
    The OP used a hammer to mount a tuning gear; my suggestion is that he step away from his instrument before he does serious, expensive damage.
     
  18. FunkMetalBass

    FunkMetalBass

    Aug 5, 2005
    Phoenix, Arizona 85029
    Endorsing Artist: J.C. Basses
    That's why all of my suggestions have been hammerless. :D


    Also, I've totally use a hammer to install a bushing before. Maybe that's what OP did?
     
  19. edpal

    edpal Inactive

    Oct 3, 2007
    I have to agree - OP, you may have some musical talent but it doesn't sound like you have the correct personality & skill set combination to make productive work on an instrument. Seriously, 30 hours at minimum wage can buy you a nice used bass from craigs, pawn, fleamarket,etc. You can get a lot of bass for $80-200. When you pay a guitar tech you only pay ONCE, you don't pay for his mistakes unless they are a real hose-bag.
     
  20. edpal

    edpal Inactive

    Oct 3, 2007
    A C-clamp or bench vise is a lot safer - put something wide across the headstock back to equal out the pressure, turn slowly and make sure it's going in straight, which is hard to do whilst hammering. Realistically those bushing should be able to be pressed in by strong hand pressure - their main function in life is to support the tuning peg, nothing else.. They can be a drag with all the different sizes (bushings) out there. I replaced some Hipshots that were OEM on an Ibanez 805E bass. Turns out the bushing was not the same size as a standard Hipshot of supposedly same make/model. Odd:(