OK this will be a long one but i need to get this sorted out: About 6-8 weeks ago i deceided it was time to start focusing on using a pick, there was a few songs i just couldnt get the right tone for and i found with some songs my plucking hand couldnt keep up with my freting hand(im a lefty playing righty if that makes a diffference) so anyway, i knew it would take some time for me to get the accuracy but i practiced alot and can now play pretty much anything i can with my fingers with the pick without hitting strings/missings notes etc. but heres the problem: Usually about 1/2 way into a song or towards the end it will get to the point where my pick has moved sideways in my fingers/spun and i will simply have to stop and readjust which means i cant perform any songs properly with a pick yet. Im self taught but ive never had any problems with technique til now, im guessing that i have a wrong grip even though it does feel comfortable and controlled this way. Alot of the problem comes from the fact there seems to be no good rescources about how to actually hold a pick to play bass anywhere online. Ive tried forum searches, googling, youtube etc. and the basics just arent there. Someone saying 'i hold a pick between my thumb and index fingers' could mean anything. I tried watching alot of pro's on youtube but i just cant quite see the grip clearly enough. Theres loads of stuff on classical guitar pick holding but i find it hard to use that grip when i stand up unless i strap my bass high around my chest the angle you hit the strings doesnt seem right and has a scratchy sound. So anyway this is my last resort. I hear its best to hold it on the side of your finger but to me that seemed really unstable and more likely to spin than my current grip. Im holding it between my index finger tip and thumb pad/tip and i try to keep part of the pick tucked into the join of my first index finger knuckle. Could the type of picks im using also be a problem these were some cheap 1.50mm heavy gauge unbrandeds i got when i first got my guitar years ago and never had any interest in pick playing back then. Ive tryed using a stubby pick that i found but it was a 3.0mm and still seemed to spin after alot of fast E string notes. Heres 4 pictures taken with my old mobile phone hopefully they are clear enough. http://img232.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc00260p.jpg http://img232.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc00261a.jpg http://img222.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc00257t.jpg http://img15.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc00268wbv.jpg Any help is appreciated or if someone could point me to some well pictured info about how to actually hold a pick securely would be nice. Its really depressing being able to play our stuff perfectly finger style and then messing up half way through a song with a pick. We are trying to cover some punk songs at the moment and hopefully make our own but finger style just cant get that tone.