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New bass or New neck- what would you do?

Great discussion! I really appreciate all your inputs.

Here’s what I’ll do.

- I’ll buy the squier to give it a serious try in band situations.

- I have access to an MIM precision neck at least to try. I’ll try and see if that fits the ESP. Plus measure it. But keep in mind: the 22nd fret on the original neck is on an overhang so that’s not an issue- under the fingerboard it’s just a normal neck. If the pocket fits, then I’ll see if I get a replacement neck. And I’ll contact my go-to luthier dude to see what he says.

But, if the Squier feels right in the long run, I’ll keep it. If not for anything else, the matching headstock is very cool.

But, alas, no SVT for me. And no 8x10.

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Sidecar
I support this decision. Basically what I would have done! :D (New bass AND try to fix, one way or another.)

those Squiers are sweet!

Its also fun and rewarding to try and fix up basses. Doesn’t always work out, which is exactly why I’d have a new bass to replace it. Unless of course you already have a backup. Then it’s just GAS- which is cool too! :woot:

But whatever happens with the ESP you’ll learn something in the process
 
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Yes, don't forget the third option: Repairing the current neck. That's not necessarily very difficult or expensive. The main thing is whether you can find a Luthier who will repair it who is nearby. Otherwise the shipping may be more expensive than the repair.
 
I’ve been in the same situation as you a few times and have gone the replacement Warmoth route with great results. The replacements are really high quality and with the double truss rod, super sturdy .

My current number one and two (both fretless are a Warmoth neck on a jazz body).

I’ve also played usagc necks which are great as replacements .


Best of luck
Pbass888
 
Ok,

the question is: I’m playing an 80s ESP 400 precision, a true beauty, great sound, but with a neck twist.

With the equivalent of USD 580 at your disposal, what would you do? Replace the neck with a genuine Fender P neck, or spend the money on a new squier fsr 50s precision (sonic Blue, a beautiful and very tempting bass I’ve already tried and do like quite a bit)?

Hit me, talkbass.

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Sidecar
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If you are looking for and ESP on that budget I would either wait and save a bit for a new one, or try to find a used Surveyor ‘87…

I have an AP-4, but kinda wished I had gotten a Surveyor instead…

I wanted EMGs and they have Seymour Duncans in that model, but in retrospect I probably should have bought a Surveyor and swapped the pickups…

I love my Fender P, but curious if I would have bought it had I started w the Surveyor…

That kind of scratch should allow you to land either a decent new ESP/LTD, Schecter, Ibanez, or a Squier.

I like the aesthetics of the CV 70s series by Squier and most of the Squiers in your range should do the job…

Best of luck to you whatever you decide…

Thanks! \m/
 
I have a 1975 les Paul custom that had a neck twist that was so bad it wouldn’t intonate. I was on tour (in dc st the time) and the (reputable) shop I took it to said the neck needed replacing. They quoted me $900 and 3 months lead time.

I brought the guitar back home to Los Angeles to let my usual repair guy have a look at it before doing something so drastic as a neck replacement.
he told me over the phone “I can’t promise anything until I see the guitar in person but I’ve never seen a guitar that needed the neck replaced unless it had been run over by a truck”

He straightened the neck and refretted it for me in less than 2 weeks for $295.
That was 21 years ago so I suspect prices would have gone up by now, but I’d suggest finding a good repair guy.
They are worth their weight in gold!

of course, there’s absolutely nothing wrong with owning 2 basses!
 
I didn’t see here any further details about the neck on your ESP.I had an experience in 2003,with my (RIP) 78’ Precison Bass,and got some excellent advice.Which was to get a second opinion from the most reputable and experienced electric bass specialist I could find.After I spoke to a few within a reasonable distance I waited for saturday morning and drive the bass 175 miles.He said yeah it’s got “a little rise here” and quoted me 250-300.3 frets were replaced and the rest crowned and leveled and a set-up w/ new strings in a few hours $260.00 that guy put the majic hands on my bass.I couldn’t get over how it played and sounded.It was a dairy farm of thumpy bouncy smooth buttery awesomeness...
I hope whatever you decide works out in the end.We all need to own 14-50 basses minimum.So do all you can to save that sweet vintage ESP.
cheers
 
He straightened the neck and refretted it for me in less than 2 weeks for $295.
That was 21 years ago so I suspect prices would have gone up by now, but I’d suggest finding a good repair guy.
They are worth their weight in gold!
lol You got in there right before me with a such a similar story (a bit better too I have to admit) Well,enjoy your victory@never-enougha most honorable display of skill.
I’m wondering now why this post isn’t in the Luthiers Corner forums??
 
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lol You got in there right before me with a such a similar story (a bit better too I have to admit) Well,enjoy your victory@never-enougha most honorable display of skill.
I’m wondering now why this post isn’t in the Luthiers Corner forums??

hey brother I’m just glad to hear your own success story! I think it’s always worth fixing what we have, provided we have the means.
And I actually left out the “best” part of my story… the guitar in question was a gift from dave grohl… but this isn’t my thread and I’m really just trying to be helpful
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Regardless….It is a really great guitar and I honestly feel blessed to have such a great repair guy… I’ve been using him for 28 years, which means I really ought to be a better player by now, ouch
 
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hey brother I’m just glad to hear your own success story! I think it’s always worth fixing what we have, provided we have the means.
I feel exactly the same.And hope the OP received ours or any similar input.I also would like to add.That reply took me over an hour to post (lock up screen wifi down eyes getting sore poor typing editing lol) and you had me covered saving that sweet LP Custom.I guess i’m a sentimental old dude.Here’s what I mean my man.This is Gibson....
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and this...
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My babies are all named Gibson lol
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Hey everyone

thanks again for the discussion, great read.

status after visiting my highly-trusted luthier:

He’s the one who gets my money. New frets, necks gets straightened, bass will be great. He said “If you afterwards don’t think it’s worth the money, I’ll have to work until you’re happy.”

He also said that a new neck bears a significant risk of hidden cost even though it fits. Once you ship a neck from somewhere overseas to hereabouts, the first thing it’ll do is settle in on the climate. That most likely will require the cost of a luthier afterwards on top of the purchase price. And I remember I had at least one friend with exactly that experience.

Factor in that given the choice of used vs new, all things equal I’ll always prefer used, there’s my solution.

A week from now, we all will know if I was stupid.

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Sidecar
 
Hey everyone

thanks again for the discussion, great read.

status after visiting my highly-trusted luthier:

He’s the one who gets my money. New frets, necks gets straightened, bass will be great. He said “If you afterwards don’t think it’s worth the money, I’ll have to work until you’re happy.”

He also said that a new neck bears a significant risk of hidden cost even though it fits. Once you ship a neck from somewhere overseas to hereabouts, the first thing it’ll do is settle in on the climate. That most likely will require the cost of a luthier afterwards on top of the purchase price. And I remember I had at least one friend with exactly that experience.

Factor in that given the choice of used vs new, all things equal I’ll always prefer used, there’s my solution.

A week from now, we all will know if I was stupid.

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Sidecar

I think you made a great decision and I expect that you are going to be very happy when you get it back
It will be like a new instrument that you have known for years.
Let us know your thoughts when you pick it up!
 
Ok,

the question is: I’m playing an 80s ESP 400 precision, a true beauty, great sound, but with a neck twist.

With the equivalent of USD 580 at your disposal, what would you do? Replace the neck with a genuine Fender P neck, or spend the money on a new squier fsr 50s precision (sonic Blue, a beautiful and very tempting bass I’ve already tried and do like quite a bit)?

Hit me, talkbass.

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Sidecar

I would replace the neck if I was happy with the sound...
 
Good point. Haven’t checked, but will do.



That certainly has truth to it.
On the other hand, turning back the wheels of time to when my esp was made- it’s a lawsuit model (complete with fender style headstock and, as such, pretty rare) that, in terms of general build quality, gave U.S. fenders of the time a serious run for the money (some say the Japanese were superior, and while I don’t have any firsthand comparison, I know that of the early 90s Fender Japan basses). The neck problems on this bass surely are related to it being abused for years on end as a school instrument.

Again on the other hand- any “mojo” related to originality would be gone with a replacement neck from 2022.

I just don’t know. But, maybe selling this for 400 and spending 550 on the Squier is the smarter way.

Damn.

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Sidecar

I personally like the rebuild theory, especiallyasit'sarare bird...if you have other basses to use in the meantime, that can buy you some tinker-time.
 
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