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New EBMM models!!!
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Jmann said:
Hate to burst your bubble, but white is no longer an option on Bongos. But, you can still have a lefty.
I'll hold out to see how these actually differ from everyone elses Lakland (the original J/MM combo) or dual humbucker config. Outside of pickup placement and/or preamp tweaks, what we might have here is MM simply playing catch-up.
I'm looking forward to hearing the EB spin on these set up however.
More choice are a good thing too...
KT
I'm looking forward to hearing the EB spin on these set up however.
More choice are a good thing too...
KT
You're forgetting the Danny Partridge signature model...perfect for strumming.Fred312b said:)
and just for the record, the 3rd most recognizable bass model is (drumroll please)- the Jackson Kip Winger Signature model
Agreed, but doesn't the Lakland come off a bit more "polite" sounding as opposed to that sort of nasally roar we've come to expect from the StingRay? I know I'm not the perfect describer of sound, but the StingRays seem to have that extra "grunt" factor in their sound. That said, then just the fact of being able to have a very, very well built production bass in that configuration, with the little extra SR "push over the cliff" might be very compelling.KenToby said:
- Dec 5, 2002
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- Endorsing Artist: Ernie Ball Music Man/Sterling By Music Man
Nah. It's a little shocking, especially for those of us who started playing Stingrays in the 70s because the bass hasn't really changed much in almost thirty years. But then who could have imagined, way back when pterodactyls darkened the skies, a Precision with an active preamp? I think it's going to be very cool and yeah, sales figures will probably go insane.
That would be my take. I've had a few Laklands and have loved most of them, but in no way do I think they really compare. Laklands have their own demographic, as do Stingrays. Their is also a significant price difference between an American Lakland and an American Stingray, of course. We've yet to see the pricing on these new EB models, but no one expects them to be up there with a 4-94 or 55-94.
G&L makes fine basses, but maybe for those of us who have always been Stingray People, they just don't have that sex appeal. Speaking for myself, that is the case, anyway. I know guys who own and love both, so I might be full of it concerning how others feel, but that's what it is for me personally.
RE the flap over "third most recognizable bass" or whatever the term was, the Stingray has to be way up there. Rickenbackers have a unique look, but - just a guess based on decades of playing, buying, reading bass - I think he's right.
I think this is going to be fun.
For anyone who is sorry that they aren't going to reissue the sabre should be happy that you will now have something that is for all intents and purposes better then the sabre. The sabre had several problems(love 'em or hate 'em) and these new basses should fix most or all of them.
Andrew
Andrew
I saw that comment (was it by Sterling?) about unwanted string damping with the Sabre - they seem to have worked it out with Bongo!MingusBass said:
KenToby said:
Keep in mind that the MM/J combo's on Lakland with Barts are acutally closer to JJ/J than an actual MM humbucker.
HeavyDuty said:
Part of that could be the Neodymium magnets used in the Bongo pickups.
Sterling also mentioned the neck pickups have been designed from the ground up for the Stingrays and Sterlings, so who knows what Dudley has up his sleeve for these new basses.
xcental34x said:
To make it clear, a MM pickup and all dual coil humbuckers are basically nothing but two Jazz pickups under the same cover; one coil is reverse wound for hum cancelling.
The Stingray is hardwired into a Parallel coil configuration for power. The Sterling is coil tapped for switching capabilites (Parallel/single/Series).
The real difference between manufactures lies in the magnets, bobbins, wire gage and the number of windings, etc. but again, you really are looking at two Jazz pickups in the same cover.
My main point in mentioning Lakland was not the sound, but the fact that they were first to use the J/MM pickup config in a production bass.
Thanks,
KT
I agree with Kentoby that Musicman is playing catchup, and I think that it's great for bassplayers! Lakland is a great company, but it is small and their USA basses have boutique prices. Musicman/Ernie Ball is fully capable of matching Lakland's quality at roughly half the price. The Bongo, which uses a Basswood body and painted neck already sounds as good as a 55-94 IMO. The SC/H Stingray will have the same sonic configuration as the Lakland and it will have a finish that will compete in terms of sheer good looks.
KenToby said:
actually, MM pickups look more like 2 Tele bass pickups put together than 2 J's, IMHO. always wondered what it would sound like if you modified two Duncan QP Tele's to fit in a musicman cover... anyway, can't freakin wait to check out the new 2H 'Rays!
Martybass said:
yes, but a tele/p pickup doesn't sound exactly like a single J pickup. what fender puts into the newer delux P's is two J's as a humbucker. I've just always thought that the design of the MM pickups probably started out as two tele/p pickups stuck together, that's all.
Yeppers, call me a traditionalist, but I'll be getting a single humbucker SR4 in the near future.Martybass said:Though...does anyone else think that slapping another pickup in a stingray especially is sort of semi-sacrilege?
