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Hi everyone, I'm new to this forum and to bass although I do play guitar and drums. Some question for you guys/gals......

Besides just fewer and thicker strings, what are the main differences between bass and guitar? Do you play chords on bass or only notes?

For a 'first' bass guitar, can you suggest something worth playing (i.e. not regretfully cheap) yet relatively inexpensive?

Can you suggest a basic bass amp that perhaps can also be used with guitar? (i.e. Fender Bassman)

I went over to my favorite guitar lesson website, JustinGuitar, but there are no, or very few bass guitar lessons. Can you suggest a good beginner website for lessons?

Lastly, I'd like to think I could eventually play the bass line to this song ( Am I being unrealistic?).






Thanks!
 
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Continuing to use the Search function and have often seen a couple questions asked of the poster....

My budget is 'around' $500 for the guitar and $500 for the amp. I say 'around' because I'm just starting out so just like when I started out playing guitar I don't want cheap gear but I'm not ready to heavily invest in top end gear either so I'm guessing about budget.

As far as genre of music, Rock and Blues mostly.

Thanks again.
 
Besides just fewer and thicker strings, what are the main differences between bass and guitar? Do you play chords on bass or only notes?

bass lines are typically single note (but not always)
but you really have to know your chords, how to spell them out, and the locations of chord tones around the neck. Chord tones are the bread and butter of bass lines.


For a 'first' bass guitar, can you suggest something worth playin?
Can you suggest a basic bass amp (i.e. Fender Bassman)
Seek a Used fender Squire jazz or Squire Precision. If you know an experienced bassist, ask them to help you pick.
For amp a used SWR working man's 15.
you may be able to get both for arounf $500.
Spend the remainder on lessons.

Can you suggest a good beginner website for lessons?
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I'd like to think I could eventually play the bass line to this song ( Am I being unrealistic?).
no way, go for it.
 
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Thank you mambo, I appreciate it.

I'll definitely get my hands on a few different models at my local GC before deciding. I have medium sized hands and have preferred a slimmer neck when playing guitar, so perhaps I'll be looking at Ibenez or Squire Jazz? Does that preference for thinner necks in guitars also apply to bass when (I assume) your not having to stretch your fingers to form chords?
 
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Does that preference for thinner necks in guitars also apply to bass when (I assume) your not having to stretch your fingers to form chords?

There is a lot of personal preference when it comes to bass necks.
You are not generally barring the notes but clamping the string under finger tips.
Be careful not to assume guitar technique applies to bass guitar!
It's a different instrument that demands a different approach.


here's an old post with the holy trinity of safe technique videos
 
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Before going to GC I thought I would practice some bass on my guitar using the first 4 strings then I could have something to play on each model of bass to compare. Found this Rocksmith video of the bass being played in the exact song I'd like to learn, very helpful....

 
Question, any problem with 'starting out' on a short scale bass? The guitar that I'm used to playing has the standard 24.75, medium neck. Looking at the online GC description of they're popular selling Squire Vintage Modified Jaguar Bass Special SS it makes mention of a 30" scale and slim neck more suited to students, but, perhaps this would also bode well for transitioning guitar players?

I'll of course try out several different basses before deciding but I wanted to know if I should be avoiding starting out on short scale.

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Question, any problem with 'starting out' on a short scale bass? The guitar that I'm used to playing has the standard 24.75, medium neck. Looking at the online GC description of they're popular selling Squire Vintage Modified Jaguar Bass Special SS it makes mention of a 30" scale and slim neck more suited to students, but, perhaps this would also bode well for transitioning guitar players?

I'll of course try out several different basses before deciding but I wanted to know if I should be avoiding starting out on short scale.

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No really.

I started out on a bass made with a guitar scale length, then bought a Hofner with a 30" scale length, then a Precision with 34" scale whithin the space of about 2 years and didn't really notice much difference.

I recently started playing EUB (Electric Upright Bass) and that is a whole different ball game. Much longer scale length (42") and completely different playing technique.
 
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30" basses are great, for beginner and expert bassists alike. Some of the best bassists of all time, such as Jack Bruce, Stanley Clarke, and Paul McCartney, have played short-scales.

Scale length is very important if you're a boring player who only ever plays open strings, but as soon as you fret a note, you've changed the effective scale length of the vibrating string. The difference between a 34" bass and a 30" bass is only 2 frets, like fretting F# on the E string. If you take a 34" bass, drop all the strings a whole-step in pitch, and slap a capo at the 2nd fret, you've got yourself a makeshift 30" short scale. ;)
 
Great info, I appreciate it.

Next will be an amp. Looks like the Fender Rumble Series is pretty popular. Though it might be a bit much for starting out, I Like the 40 for its added features and a bit of future proofing.
 
The only problem that I see with starting off with a short scale bass is lack of selection if you are married to the specs to the point anything different is like starting over.
 
Welcome to Talkbass!

Hi everyone, I'm new to this forum and to bass although I do play guitar and drums. Some question for you guys/gals......

Besides just fewer and thicker strings, what are the main differences between bass and guitar? Do you play chords on bass or only notes?

The bass is bigger and more physical in some ways than guitar, though you don't have to hold barre chords. As others said, you mostly play single notes but knowing chord structure is good because it points you toward which notes to play. The role in the music is different, and that's really the main thing. In most popular music, the bass is the bridge between drums and guitar. It connects the rhythm that the percussion establishes to the chords being played by guitar or keys or the singer's melody.

For a 'first' bass guitar, can you suggest something worth playing (i.e. not regretfully cheap) yet relatively inexpensive?

There are lots of options at the $500 price point you mentioned in the other post, especially if you're willing to consider used instruments. You really need to poke around a guitar store and find out what you like. I think some beginners seem to get freaked out over the size of full-scale basses and rush to short-scales because they think they'll be easier, but really it isn't that different and I wouldn't limit my options when I haven't even had an instrument in my hands yet. The upper-range (vintage modified or classic vibe series) Squiers are quite well made these days, Yamaha and Ibanez have good options about that price, and while standard MIM Fenders are a little over ($600), you can usually find a used one for $300-400. It really depends on whether you're more inclined to a classic-style instrument like a Fender P or J or the more "modern" style and options of most Ibanez basses or the Yamaha TRBX series.

Can you suggest a basic bass amp that perhaps can also be used with guitar? (i.e. Fender Bassman)

No. Bass and guitar amps are really tuned differently, so to speak. The first question on picking a bass amp is whether this is just a bedroom amp for learning at home or if you want something that will keep up in a band setting. If just for at home, than I would say may as well save money and keep it minimal - there's no advantage in having a 60 watt amp rather than a 25 watt amp for home practice. If you're playing in a band, make sure it's enough - you want at least 200 watts through a 15" or two 10" speakers to be heard properly. Remember that a lesser instrument through a better amp sounds better than a better instrument through a lesser amp.

I went over to my favorite guitar lesson website, JustinGuitar, but there are no, or very few bass guitar lessons. Can you suggest a good beginner website for lessons?

+1 to the links others have mentioned. I started with www.studybass.com for a while, then branched off and started figuring out my own things.

Lastly, I'd like to think I could eventually play the bass line to this song ( Am I being unrealistic?).





Of course you can. It's just a matter of how long you'll need. You'll be playing all kinds of amazing things with time. Just be patient and keep practicing.
 
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Fender Rumble 200 combo, $300 used.
Squier most anything. Jaguar Short Scale Bass $200 new..
I have those and found the Rumble for $200 used at Guitar Center and the Jag shortie for $100 at Reverb.
This seemingly before the prices went up on the used market a year or so ago.
Check out the classifieds here as well.
Welcome aboard.
 
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