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New Markbass Stock

New guy, here. Hi!

Noticed you guys like review threads, haven't seen much on the new Mb models, so...my guitarist and I hit Guitar Center the other day, I brought both my cabs and tried out all the Markbass heads they had.

This was all in a very small demo room - so while volume test was high, comparative levels between models were hard to tell in such cramped quarters.

Testing
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We swept all knobs to 0, and found the sweet spots across all heads. Did this on my first cab, then switched over to the second cab with these settings, and redialed as needed.

Thumbed open E, a quick series of ghost notes across all strings to check punch and response, and a 4th fret G-string pop for mids and brightness. Once dialed in, switched to finger runs, half position, E 11th fret death woof zone, and high up near 22.

Cabs: Genz-Benz 410T-XB (500w@4) and Mesa 4x10 Diesel (600w@8)
Basses: Ibanez with hot EMGs, Barts, and even a Peavey Grind 6 (ew).

Heads (as pictured)
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F1 ----- $849
LM2 ---- $599
R500 --- $929
SD800 -- $1149 *
TA-501 - $999

* All heads 500w@4/350w@8, except SD800 (750@4/450@8)

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Results
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The F1 and the SD800 were pretty much exact with their digital power amps. F1's just baby brother. SD800 has low mid and high mid shelf level knobs and line out level control, F1 does not.

Crispness and nice exact lows - F1's loud, but if you needed serious power, the SD800 will be grossly sufficient. On all basses and cabs, these two heads were transparent. The sound was very dependent on what bass you drove through these heads, and coloration of the cabs. Both the Mesa and GB sounded intensely different with the same EQ settings, but could be dialed to a happy place without much effort.

LM2 had a nicer tone through my Mesa (diesel), and seemed a little more forgiving on the dial. Warmer. The clean solid state of the others showed in comparison, just barely tighter on lows and slightly more pronounced highs. The LM2 has cheerier mids. From what I heard I personally prefer the LM2 to the F1. Very nice little amp. But if you want that SS sound, F1's your guy.

LM2 has been covered an egregious amount of times here, by more astute audiophiles than I, so I'll move on...

Now. By the time that I got to the R500, I was pretty happy with what I was hearing from the Markbass line. Then I went THWOK on my E string. And both our heads tilted. We looked at each other. A little smile crept onto Mike's face. I went, "ooo..."

All official interest in the other heads was gone.

The R500 is their "rock" amp. Convincingly tube, though it only sports one JJ ECC83 (euro version of a 12AX7). The sneaky feature on the R500 is that gain controls the amount of tube overdrive, which is paired with a limiter that gives you a very warm tube growl.

There is no VPF/VLE on the R500. Which, honestly? Didn't matter. Sounded almost exactly the same as the 501, just couldn't shelf the highs for a flatter tone. Fine by me.

The TA-501 sports one JJ ECC81 (euro 12AT7 - lower voltage gain, but higher plate current and transfer conductance) which is used not only for the built in tube compressor (with pretty VU meter!), but also warms your tone when the compressor is off. 501 also has those shelf knobs for mid-freq EQ level. Kinda nice.

Both of these bravely stood out against the non-tube variations. Air displacement was massively different. Throttling punch. Surprising levels of tubey goodness out of a very small package. Easy to dial. Massive sweet spots on the EQ.

And loud. And present. But loud. Loud.

Sum up
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Between these, my personal choice was the TA-501, as I was won over by the ECC81. It seemed a little warmer while punching just a tiny bit harder, and I could use tubular compression more than overdriven limiting. Regardless, my crutch (Sansamp RBI) is quaking in her rack knowing that she's most likely headed directly to Craigslist if I brought either of these puppies home. I love my RBI. They sound -that- good.

Unfortunately, they did not carry the TA-503, which has both the ECC81 and 83, shelf knobs for all EQ ranges, AND seems to be what most of their featured artists use. GC's seeing what they can do about ordering one in, but claim that they kinda get what they get from Markbass, and have no real choice. Hm.

I may have to sit on my purchase until one comes in, regardless that I'm itching. This little guy sounds too good to pass up.

Meanwhile, how the TA-501 stands next to other manufacturers (suggestions most welcome! - GK's on the list) is my next excursion, likely this afternoon.

Anyhoo, hope this helps :)

-tap
 
Wow! Nice work! I for one pretty much was sold on the MB line the first time I heard them, but I didn't do an in depth comparison as the OP because I was in the market for a 2x10 combo... so I went for the only one they make and that's all it took.
 
Wonderful! Thanks for the comparison!!! They seem to have most tone goals covered in the new line of amps!

My thoughts exactly...between the heads mentioned above, and their all tube head (Classic 300) Markbass is covering more tonal ground than any company I can think of...when you add in their low prices, and high quality, it's even more amazing.
 
Your findings on the TA-501 are really interesting to me. I know in my limited testing against the LMII, I didn't see much difference in the tone. At least not enough to warrant the extra $400.

Other people have echoed this in the past as well, but by no means have I taken one out of GC or tested one intensely with my favorite cab so my experience is limited.

I got the chance to hear somebody A/B a LMII and the F1 through an Eden 4x10. I tend to agree with everything that has been said on this. The F1 is a little clearer, with a slightly subdued low end in comparison. I think it will really be a personal preference thing for most people.
 
@taphappy:

thank you very much for your testing, interestin read!

btw: when you like the TA501 and R500 you'll LOVE the TA503!! Its my main amp since 1.5 years, and has never let me down.
AND
I had the chance to play the R500 last saturday (was on my GAS List) and it sounded soooo good! but its nothing in it, whicj the TA503 hasn't. But the TA503 has a lot more (shelf knobs for all EQ ranges, VPF; VLE, you now the facts!
if you can get your hands on such an amp, try it & buy it, hehe ;-)
 
Nice review. Too bad they didn't have an SA450. We're hoping for a gtg in Fort Wayne to jam and try out some gear. There'll be an SA450, a LMKII, an Eden 800, a GK 1001, and who knows what else, then there'll be Bergantino cabs, Eden cab, my LDS custom, another LDS (2x8) and the GK NEO cabs. I'd love to try the 501 sometime if our local guitard center ever gets their MB stuff in.
 
Ok! A/B'd the GK 1001RBII with the Mb TA-501.

The 1001 has wonderful clarity, and for $750 is one hell of an amp. 700w@4ohms. It's very, very quiet, lovely EQ, and great tone, almost no coloration to my bass. Contour and presence filters were nice, mute button!!&@%!*&^$@ sorry. 18lbs, not bad at all.

The Bi-Amp section is reportedly only usable for the Horn Bi-Amp Compatible GK cabinets. Didn't test this out. 700w runs to the speakers while 50w powers the horn. Heard this is very cool.

As I was only running my GB w/eminences, and couldn't open up the 1001 fully, as my GB is only 500w@4, so don't have comparative volume levels. But, it sure was loud.

I dialed the GK in all sorts of sweet, then switched over to the 501. The 501 just kicked a little harder on the punch, and gave me that sittin' round the fireplace kinda sweet warm-fuzzy foot massage on the bearskin rug feeling that I'm desperately looking for.

Tried to dial the GK to match, couldn't get it. Tried to dial the 501 to match the GK, was close, and clear, but not as SS sharp and clear. Nature of the beast.

Now, consider (as was pointed out):

LM2-- $600 (ciao bella!)
1001- $750 ($150 more. Comparable, but I like it better)
501-- $999 (+$250 on the 1001, +$400 on the LM2 ow)

It could be a simple matter of pride when it comes to your wallet. Or it could be that exact tone that you've been looking for. The 1001 is a great head. So is the 501. But they're built for different consumers.

Somebody with more of an SS sensibility should A/B/C the 800 and F1 against the 1001, see how they stand up - might be a close race.

So, in conclusion...if you're dying for a tube tone with unusually fast response (mememe), go with the Markbass tube heads. If you jones for the razor sharp, clean tone that GK provides, it's a very sweet amp that you just can't go wrong with.

-tap
 
The 501 just kicked a little harder on the punch, and gave me that sittin' round the fireplace kinda sweet warm-fuzzy foot massage on the bearskin rug feeling that I'm desperately looking for.

So, in conclusion...if you're dying for a tube tone with unusually fast response (mememe), go with the Markbass tube heads.
-tap

Tap, thanks for the tests/review, mucho appreciated. Sounds like you really put them throught the paces. If you interested, I'd like to ask you about what you wrote about the tubey aspect of the MarkBass heads. I'm wondering if you consider the TA501 & R500 to sound tubey only when compared to the GK head and the other (non-tube) MB heads, or if you'd still consider them to sound tubey when compared to an all-tube amp (Mesa 400+, etc.).

I had a LMII for a few weeks and was trying to get a more tubular sound/feel by using tubed preamps upstream of the LMII but ultimately just wasn't satisfied. I think I need to try out the TA501 & R500 when my area shops get them in, a one-box lightweight amp (that cops a convincing tube amp sound) would be nice.
 
Was considering doing that...what the hey. I ran through 'em real quick last time, but didn't A/B. If I stay there too long I start going a little batty.

Had to test the GK out on the floor last time. Some lady had her 2 year old parked in a stroller between my cab and the one her husband was massacring, and said, "Oh, it's fine. She's used to it."

...

Anyhoo. On the tube side, they have:

SVT-Classic (300w@4, 2x12AX7 1x12AU7 pre, 2x12AU7 1x12AX7 driver, tube power 6x6550 - 80lbs...eee)

Mesa Big Block 750 (750w@2/550w@4, "simul-state" - 12 tube-driven MOSFETs w/4x12AX7's, 8 stage vacuum tube preamp - 35lbs...ooo)

Which I'll A/B with the 501, likely tomorrow depending on how today goes. Just...man. Better not be any kids trapped in strollers.

-tap

(p.s. Drucocu/tom - forgot to say, thanks for the input on the 503! Exactly what I was looking to hear...I'm pushing the idea real hard to them that I'm not gonna make a purchase til they get one in.)
 
I'm completely fascinated by the R500, but none of my local GC's have one. Anybody know the price?

Ascending order this time:

LM2 ---- $599
F1 ----- $849
R500 --- $929
TA-501 - $999
SD800 -- $1149

Oh hey, anyone got the price on the TA-503? We don't have it out here.

-tap

(p.s. Ooh. Found in another thread, called 'em up - rmcaudio.com sells 1001RBII for $600, 2001RB for $1150, shipped...yow)