New mesa subway amps and cabs!

[mmbass21]

@pickles for frfr you should look at barefaced 12" cabs. They're absolutely up your alley with the helix.

 

[Stumbo]

You know... it’d be cool if someone designed a little cab I could slide my WD800 into. Maybe put wheels on it and a telescopic handle so I could walk about like it’s luggage.

Talk to Dave at Revsound.

 

[57pbass]

It’s not a MESA cab but a powered Bag End 15... really great pairing...

I'd love a Mesa powered cab. I could plug my Subway+ preamp right into the speaker and be good to go!

 

[_Some Dude]

walk about ...now there's an interesting concept

It’d be like having all your tone in your luggage.

(On a serious note, I’d buy an updated 15” version of this)

(Edit - The SW215 as a convertible combo would also be cool since the cart is already built in)

 

[Jman2089]

You know... it’d be cool if someone designed a little cab I could slide my WD800 into. Maybe put wheels on it and a telescopic handle so I could walk about like it’s luggage.

Or pick up a Bergantino IP cab

 

[keto]

It’d be like having all your tone in your luggage.

(On a serious note, I’d buy an updated 15” version of this)

(Edit - The SW215 as a convertible combo would also be cool since the cart is already built in)


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the combo idea is brilliant.

 

[nostatic]

heresy alert - amp and cab mixing - run, run for the hills!

Saturday's hit. WD800 on top of AK H1203 (pointed at the drummer) on top of Barefaced Two10. Kinda like a perfect three-course meal...

 

[agedhorse]

Hi guys, out of respect to the Talkbass family, I wanted to give you a warranty policy update in advance, so that you can finish making whatever deals you are making before it happens.

With increasing costs of materials and labor that go into our products, we find ourselves in the position of either raising prices or eliminating the transferable portion of the 5 year factory warranty. We chose eliminating the transferable portion of the warranty, so the product is now covered for the same 5 year period, but only to the original purchaser. 5 years remains the longest warranty offered by a major manufacturer.

For the "good news": There is no price increase (which is pretty good news actually).

For more "good news": To be clear, this does not affect the transferability coverage of any units already purchased, these can be resold within 5 years of the original purchase date, so there's nothing retroactive about this change.

For even more "good news" (if you can handle it), all products that are shipped from the factory before March 1st (including all stock at our dealers) include the 5 year transferable warranty and will have this information on the hang tag and owner's manual paperwork, they ARE covered under the 5 year transferable warranty. I would expect these units to be in high demand so I wanted to give you all first crack at this information.

Please be sure to verify with your dealer that your amp has this paperwork included with the amp, I want to be sure you have what you need and the customer service guys are always available to help. (Note that this change only applies to products sold within the US and Canada)

 

[RudyTardy]

Just joined the Mesa club! WD-800 paired with a Subway 1x15. This combination is outstanding. I went to Mesa Hollywood yesterday and tried out a few different setups with the D800+ and the WD800. I really liked both amps, a lot. Went in thinking I'd grab the + but I just immediately bonded with the WD. The EQ options are invaluable. I love the ability to roll up the HPF to 40Hz or so and add a touch of bass shelf for that resonant boost effect. The passive mid is a great vehicle for quick voicing of the low mids if you want that scoop without too much fiddling. The unsung hero of this amp, though, is the power damping! It can go from untethered, B15 style bloom to a tightened up chest punch with a click or two. Last, but certainly not least, is the tube preamp: so tastefully integrated... it feels like I have miles of headroom allowing real subtle saturation all the way up to an overdrive that never gets ugly. WELL DONE @agedhorse!

The only thing that I am hearing differently than the floor model is that the fans are quite a bit more noticeable, but that could just be a symptom of noise floor being a lot lower in my home studio.

 

[mmbass21]

@agedhorse just to make sure I understand, if a product we currently own or purchased before March 1st it's still transferrable?

 

[agedhorse]

@agedhorse just to make sure I understand, if a product we currently own or purchased before March 1st it's still transferrable?

Absolutely correct. Your transferable warranty remains in effect for the entire 5 years, it travels with the product. It's easier and better if a copy of the original sales receipt accompanies the product.

 

[agedhorse]

For those of you with the 3 different Subway amps, how would you describe them in the terms of a straight ahead rock, hard rock or metal amp? It would be helpful to understand in this context.

 

[Supadope]

Happy new-cab day to me!

 

[keto]

For those of you with the 3 different Subway amps, how would you describe them in the terms of a straight ahead rock, hard rock or metal amp? It would be helpful to understand in this context.

I can speak to this, though my experience with the WD was brief. The best by a mile was the +, the deep + bright and etc made it a much punchier more cutting amp than the D-800. Which itself was OK but lacking those tonal elements, despite being quick. And I know you may remember me saying I prefer a throatier grindier overdrive sound. The WD just did not have the bottom punch, and overall clarity I personally prefer. If the + was the size of the 800 I would have kept it for sure, but I’m happy to still own the D-800

 

[Supadope]

Hi guys, out of respect to the Talkbass family, I wanted to give you a warranty policy update in advance, so that you can finish making whatever deals you are making before it happens.

With increasing costs of materials and labor that go into our products, we find ourselves in the position of either raising prices or eliminating the transferable portion of the 5 year factory warranty. We chose eliminating the transferable portion of the warranty, so the product is now covered for the same 5 year period, but only to the original purchaser. 5 years remains the longest warranty offered by a major manufacturer.

For the "good news": There is no price increase (which is pretty good news actually).

For more "good news": To be clear, this does not affect the transferability coverage of any units already purchased, these can be resold within 5 years of the original purchase date, so there's nothing retroactive about this change.

For even more "good news" (if you can handle it), all products that are shipped from the factory before March 1st (including all stock at our dealers) include the 5 year transferable warranty and will have this information on the hang tag and owner's manual paperwork, they ARE covered under the 5 year transferable warranty. I would expect these units to be in high demand so I wanted to give you all first crack at this information.

Please be sure to verify with your dealer that your amp has this paperwork included with the amp, I want to be sure you have what you need and the customer service guys are always available to help. (Note that this change only applies to products sold within the US and Canada)

I have only played this at low volume because I got it plugged up just after putting the little one down. It sounds very nice with the fretless 5. I doubt that I would need to transfer.

 

[Al Kraft]

For those of you with the 3 different Subway amps, how would you describe them in the terms of a straight ahead rock, hard rock or metal amp? It would be helpful to understand in this context.

I've only played two of the three, but would say the D-800 and WD-800 are perfect for straight ahead rock and modern country. In terms of power, punch and voicing I think the WD-800 would do hard rock a bit better than the D-800 which is a little darker and doesn't have as much "in you face" upper mid and top end bark/bite capability (like say the Carbines).

As for metal, I'm the wrong person to comment as I just don't have any experience playing that style of music. I would also add that cab choices can make a noticeable difference here as well. To my ear, the 800 and WD both take on a little different character in presentation when using a SW 115/112 or a PH 212 or 410.

 

[jumblemind]

Had my first outing with the WD-800/15 setup. I couldn't get to the gig til the last minute and had my roadie (one of the guitar players, heh) set it up, so I didn't even get to soundcheck it before downbeat. I do not recommend this approach, but we do what we have to do and play on. I haven't even had a chance to read the manual or understand the mid controls, but from this gig I can say:

• The WD-800 definitely sounds and even feels just like a tube amp. Squishy and growly and reactive to playing.
  
• The single 15 was fine for the night, but with this band it can be challenging slotting in between the guitars and heavy-hitting drums. I'll definitely want more speaker area at most gigs. Having the trade-off of the less firm bottom end means I need to make sure I'm pushing more air to maintain that big feel and to rely less on cranking the input for volume. Now I'm fantasizing about the WD-800 through dual subway 2x15 cabs on a big stage.
  
• The amp with single 15 made for a breeze load-in; I didn't feel like I was putting anyone out to have them schlep and set up for me, and I didn't even bother moving my car...just walked my gear back.

 

[Cardiff Giant]

Question for the technical pros:

I've been noticing a burning smell coming from either my amp or cabinets, not sure which. I'm using a WD-800 with two Subway 2x12 cabinets with the amp set to 2 ohms. I play really loud, hard rock with a lot of high gain pedals and other effects. My settings on the amp are the "rock/tube grind" EQ from the owners manual with the master volume at 1 o'clock, the HPF around 10 o'clock, but I dial the input gain on the amp back to about 10 o'clock as I get most of my drive from the pedals. The OD light flashes often when I play, with the Limit LED lighting up about 25% of the time, which is supposed to be OK according to the manual. When the smell is present, the sound/tone aren't effected at all.

I got on the WD-800 and 2x12 train pretty early, but they're still only maybe two months old. Any opinions on if the smell is related to normal break in, or is it like a burning voice coil/something more concerning?

 

[Amajew]

I've only played two of the three, but would say the D-800 and WD-800 are perfect for straight ahead rock and modern country. In terms of power, punch and voicing I think the WD-800 would do hard rock a bit better than the D-800 which is a little darker and doesn't have as much "in you face" upper mid and top end bark/bite capability (like say the Carbines).

As for metal, I'm the wrong person to comment as I just don't have any experience playing that style of music. I would also add that cab choices can make a noticeable difference here as well. To my ear, the 800 and WD both take on a little different character in presentation when using a SW 115/112 or a PH 212 or 410.

I 2nd the darkness of the d800 by itself it's a okay sounding amp in my opinion. I've had it for over 2 years now. But with a b3k in the signal chain with 10-15% drive, playing through my 2 barefaced four10's or my revsound 215t it delivers pure awesomeness in a metal band. It brings more low end and top end to the output to help cut through the mix. I have zero issues with any type of mids preference straight from the amp.

 

[Amajew]

Question for the technical pros:

I've been noticing a burning smell coming from either my amp or cabinets, not sure which. I'm using a WD-800 with two Subway 2x12 cabinets with the amp set to 2 ohms. I play really loud, hard rock with a lot of high gain pedals and other effects. My settings on the amp are the "rock/tube grind" EQ from the owners manual with the master volume at 1 o'clock, but I dial the input gain on the amp back to about 10 o'clock as I get most of my drive from the pedals. The OD light flashes often when I play, with the Limit LED lighting up about 25% of the time, which is supposed to be OK according to the manual. When the smell is present, the sound/tone aren't effected at all.

I got on the WD-800 and 2x12 train pretty early, but they're still only maybe two months old. Any opinions on if the smell is related to normal break in, or is it like a burning voice coil/something more concerning?

Your explanation of using high gain pedals and effects has me thinking that you may be hitting the limits of your rig. Try a cleaner tone at those volumes and see if there is a difference.
2 410's in my experience is plenty loud in a rehearsal environment with 2 loud guitarists and a drummer who hits like animal.
The guitarist actually told me to turn down and I have plenty in reserve.
Maybe bump up the hpf a few hz and see if that makes a difference as well. I've used the hpf at 40-50 hz and had good results with tightening up the bas and gaining headroom