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New Traynor BM12 & BM15.

Dec 19, 2013
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Hello everyone!

Flipping through the L&M Rocktober catalog I spotted a new set of amps.


Complete with an overdrive circuit! I'm wondering if these intend to replace the sb series. @GrapeBass

I'm eyeballing the 115 as a possible replacement for my amazing sounding but not always loud enough SB115.

Cool to see new Traynor products regardless!
 
Hello everyone!

Flipping through the L&M Rocktober catalog I spotted a new set of amps.


Complete with an overdrive circuit! I'm wondering if these intend to replace the sb series. @GrapeBass

I'm eyeballing the 115 as a possible replacement for my amazing sounding but not always loud enough SB115.

Cool to see new Traynor products regardless!
Replacing the SB series may have been the original intention but I believe it's not be as simple as that. We'll see as time goes on. The SB series uses ICE modules, these new amps do not.
 
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Replacing the SB series may have been the original intention but I believe it's not be as simple as that. We'll see as time goes on. The SB series uses ICE modules, these new amps do not.
Interesting on the modules. I saw these have a min load of 2ohm so figured it was a new design of some sort.

Are there any demos available yet? Also do you have any info on the drive circuit outside of what's in the manual?

Thx.
 
Interesting on the modules. I saw these have a min load of 2ohm so figured it was a new design of some sort.

Are there any demos available yet? Also do you have any info on the drive circuit outside of what's in the manual?

Thx.
The basic amp design is used on a couple of our products, only info for the drive circuit would be available in the Owner's Manual, the service manual has the schematic and pcb layout.
 
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I thought the recent BigBlock115 was it for the next decade. This new vintage-y look and features is really nice I must say. I wonder why the BigBlock is so much more expensive though, seems comparable to this new BassMaster, a bit more watts but without the tone features, and that look.
 
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I thought the recent BigBlock115 was it for the next decade. This new vintage-y look and features is really nice I must say. I wonder why the BigBlock is so much more expensive though, seems comparable to this new BassMaster, a bit more watts but without the tone features, and that look.
Exactly! I was drooling over the bb115 since it was announced. I cancelled my pre-order after it was delayed without eta. It quickly jumped up to nearly 2k and I've no longer been interested.

This one has me curious though. Looks like the east side has a mountain of them in stock/in store.

0% promo on Yorkville stuff is currently in action so I might grab one of these if they head west before Nov.
 
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I thought the recent BigBlock115 was it for the next decade. This new vintage-y look and features is really nice I must say. I wonder why the BigBlock is so much more expensive though, seems comparable to this new BassMaster, a bit more watts but without the tone features, and that look.
Different power supplies, both are designed in-house but the BB115 has a bit more, ummm, juice. The specs (tone stack) for the BB115 were set in stone to be related to the SB series and are pretty much derived from there. As for the Bassmaster, the designer had a bit more freedom with the tone stack.
 
The basic amp design is used on a couple of our products, only info for the drive circuit would be available in the Owner's Manual, the service manual has the schematic and pcb layout.
If you are part of, or are associated with the Traynor/Yorkville organization, you should read the commercial user policy here and disclose your affiliation as required.
 
If you are part of, or are associated with the Traynor/Yorkville organization, you should read the commercial user policy here and disclose your affiliation as required.
While I do work for Yorkville, I am just a regular user here. Also, you can read my profile and it will state that I do work for Yorkville. Any advice from you is always appreciated, seriously.
 
I've noticed a lot more how combo amps are following this design trend of a rear mounted/vertical oriented amp wedged in the back of the cabinet. I seem to recall a few of the old BLOC amps in the 80's were kinda like this(?). Now it seems every manufacturer does it to some degree.

Is the design just efficient in sonic terms or manufacturing or both. And are these new ones built in Canada too?
 
I've noticed a lot more how combo amps are following this design trend of a rear mounted/vertical oriented amp wedged in the back of the cabinet. I seem to recall a few of the old BLOC amps in the 80's were kinda like this(?). Now it seems every manufacturer does it to some degree.

Is the design just efficient in sonic terms or manufacturing or both. And are these new ones built in Canada too?
Not sure what was the design philosophy. Yes, they're built in Canada.
 
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I've noticed a lot more how combo amps are following this design trend of a rear mounted/vertical oriented amp wedged in the back of the cabinet.

Is the design just efficient in sonic terms or manufacturing or both.

It has nothing to do with sonics and everything to do with the user interface. Front panel controls are great on amps that are relatively tall, that’s why you see them on heads. On small amps, looking down at top mounted controls is easier than squatting.

It’s nbot a new idea…the earliest Fender “tweed” amps had top mounted contols, so did Voxes (even the piggybacks!) and other brands. I have a 1950s Danelectro made Silvertone with the controls on the back panel! Luckily there are only two knobs :thumbsup:

59 Bassman (reissue) notice the controls are labeled to be most easily read when standing behind the amp, which is open back.

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Vox AC-30

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Vox AC-50 head…hope the cabinet isn't really tall :roflmao:

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Ampeg Bassamp from the 1950s

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Marshall JTM “Bluesbreaker” combo as used by Eric Clapton

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Little Richard performing outdoors, 1950s. Notice the band stands behind the amps!

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Modern amps with top mounted controls (except vintage reissues) usually label the controls to be read from the front of the amp.

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While I do work for Yorkville, I am just a regular user here. Also, you can read my profile and it will state that I do work for Yorkville. Any advice from you is always appreciated, seriously.
It’s one of the rules, for good reasons. If you’re posting facts or opinions on bass amps or any other product Yorkville makes or competes with, it’s considered suspect if you don’t disclose you work for them. It also makes your facts and opinions on these topics more worthwhile than, say, mine.
 
It’s one of the rules, for good reasons. If you’re posting facts or opinions on bass amps or any other product Yorkville makes or competes with, it’s considered suspect if you don’t disclose you work for them. It also makes your facts and opinions on these topics more worthwhile than, say, mine.
I've always been forthright with my status and if giving opinions, always personal and I never poo poo on other products or services. I'm not an agent for my company but I am 'Yorkville family,' I've been involved for a lifetime (over 35 years).
 
It puts all commercial users on the same level so there’s no question regarding the perspective of the post. Nothing more than that, and I have long encouraged other manufacturers to participate (give back) and contribute to improving the education level of players.