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I guys. This conversation made me wonder.

I have to reduce the gain (input) to 50% or less to avoid clipping when I plug the unit to the passive input.

Should I plug it in the effects plug-in? That way the meter doesn't move and the gain/input button doesn't affect the sound at all. Could I be in risk of damaging the amp?

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Effects send/return is generally designed to accommodate line level signals, which the B3n is capable or delivering. However, if you do it this way, you'll probably not have the use of any of the tone/preamp functions - only the post-Master Volume.

You'll do no harm plugging into either the Passive or active input on the Evo provided you aren't overdriving it (based on the meter reading). So you use the input trim knob so that your nominal playing level registers right around 0 (zero) on the meter needle, or perhaps just under to give yourself some extra headroom.

If you find that the B3n is a bit too strong for the Passive input - even with the Trim knob adjustments - you can either switch it over to the Active input or just back down the Master Level of the B3n. If you use the Active input and find that it is a little too weak, you can add volume at the B3n's Master Output. Make sense?

And don't forget to use your ears. Even if the meters look like everything is fine, if you hear unwanted distortion that is clearly NOT being generated within the B3n, you should heed those audio clues.
 
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J_Bass said:
I guys. This conversation made me wonder.

I have to reduce the gain (input) to 50% or less to avoid clipping when I plug the unit to the passive input.

Should I plug it in the effects plug-in? That way the meter doesn't move and the gain/input button doesn't affect the sound at all. Could I be in risk of damaging the amp?

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Hi there,
You won't damage the amp but you might get some nasty clipping distortion.
By going through the effects return you will bypass the amps preamp. But you can take advantage of some of the tasty amp sims on the B3n. Your amp will now act as a poweramp and everything will be controlled by the B3n. To run in front of the amp you will just need to take some time matching levels until you no longer clip the front end.
Hope this helps,
Brent
 
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BrentSimons said:
Hi there,
You won't damage the amp but you might get some nasty clipping distortion.
By going through the effects return you will bypass the amps preamp. But you can take advantage of some of the tasty amp sims on the B3n. Your amp will now act as a poweramp and everything will be controlled by the B3n. To run in front of the amp you will just need to take some time matching levels until you no longer clip the front end.
Hope this helps,
Brent
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Thank you, it helped, that's what I was looking for!
 
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jimfist said:
Effects send/return is generally designed to accommodate line level signals, which the B3n is capable or delivering. However, if you do it this way, you'll probably not have the use of any of the tone/preamp functions - only the post-Master Volume.

You'll do no harm plugging into either the Passive or active input on the Evo provided you aren't overdriving it (based on the meter reading). So you use the input trim knob so that your nominal playing level registers right around 0 (zero) on the meter needle, or perhaps just under to give yourself some extra headroom.

If you find that the B3n is a bit too strong for the Passive input - even with the Trim knob adjustments - you can either switch it over to the Active input or just back down the Master Level of the B3n. If you use the Active input and find that it is a little too weak, you can add volume at the B3n's Master Output. Make sense?

And don't forget to use your ears. Even if the meters look like everything is fine, if you hear unwanted distortion that is clearly NOT being generated within the B3n, you should heed those audio clues.
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Thank you, I am going to try the active input also, then!
 
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Maiv said:
EBS is great! I love drive knob, goes from modern clean to full distortion, it could be my favorite amp sim on b3n at the moment. Still waiting for FlipTop :-/
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I am also waiting for FlipTop. I use it for one of my favorite patches. Can'tbe without, a reason I still have my B3 or MS-60b hanging around.
 
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andreas_flf said:
I am also waiting for FlipTop. I use it for one of my favorite patches. Can'tbe without, a reason I still have my B3 or MS-60b hanging around.
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Run the 60b (with always on items) into the B3n with switchable effects.
I’ve got: ZNR>RackComp>FlipTop>AcBsPre(on the 60b)>various boards set up on the B3n>Yamaha DSR112. Tone Heaven!
 
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andreas_flf said:
I am also waiting for FlipTop. I use it for one of my favorite patches. Can'tbe without, a reason I still have my B3 or MS-60b hanging around.
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So, my B1on broke on me (my fault, pulled it off my amp, broke the input jack). I had considered jumping on da bandwagon and getting one of theses but, like you the stuff I like to use hasn't been ported over to the B3n yet like, the FlipTop so, I went back to what I know, another B1on. Maybe later if the support/effects grow.
 
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I'm interested in either a Zoom B3N or Boss GT-1B. The Boss doesn't have a built in drum-machine but I believe you can edit patches in the computer with your bass through headphones or speakers. Can you edit patches using the software for the B3N the same way or do you have to edit the patches using the physical unit?
 
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Things I'm finding with the B3N:

The OD/distortion/fuzzes are better than I need- I think they are a real strength in the unit.

The darkglass sims are awesome.

Managing volume across lots if patches is the real challenge.

I miss the line 6 particle reverb from the B3- but not too much.

I think it's really gig friendly. Enough buttons for me for navigation.

The three little screens and accompanying graphics are very effective.

The SVT model is good enough that I don't miss my VT pedal

The compressors are good enough that I will sell my Horizon comp.

The darkglass sims are good enough that I am now MORE likely to buy some darkglass.

I need to buy a powered speaker (likely an EV ELX 115P) to play through at home to get a 'ballpark feel' of how my patches will sound through FOH tops.

A high quality DI is a must. The people whinging about zoom skimping on the DI need to 'pony up' and buy something high quality to match with their B3N. I'm using an RNDI (from the classifieds for a great price). My B3 had a hideous direct out.

The tuner is great!
 
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Daniel Piper said:
Things I'm finding with the B3N:

The OD/distortion/fuzzes are better than I need- I think they are a real strength in the unit.

The darkglass sims are awesome.

Managing volume across lots if patches is the real challenge.

I miss the line 6 particle reverb from the B3- but not too much.

I think it's really gig friendly. Enough buttons for me for navigation.

The three little screens and accompanying graphics are very effective.

The SVT model is good enough that I don't miss my VT pedal

The compressors are good enough that I will sell my Horizon comp.

The darkglass sims are good enough that I am now MORE likely to buy some darkglass.

I need to buy a powered speaker (likely an EV ELX 115P) to play through at home to get a 'ballpark feel' of how my patches will sound through FOH tops.

A high quality DI is a must. The people whinging about zoom skimping on the DI need to 'pony up' and buy something high quality to match with their B3N. I'm using an RNDI (from the classifieds for a great price). My B3 had a hideous direct out.

The tuner is great!
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I agree with your SVT assessment, I haven’t had to use my VT Deluxe since acquiring my B3n. I might be selling that along with my trusty GT-6B soon.
 
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