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NFL Week 20

At least we'll be flyin' the colors for you this year...

BLACK & GOLD IN THE SUPERBOWL AGAIN THIS YEAR BABY!!

Yes, that is true. I'll be happy if the Saints make it to Miami. All the sidelines to the story of the Saints will be great. I am sure more than a few of the Saints/Katrina stories will bring a tear to my eye.

At this point, I am torn on the NFCCG. I let my emotions get the better of me when it comes to picking games. I like Gard and his Saints, but I also like Jive and Oz and their Bears.

I want the Saints to win because I remember guys like Sam Mills, Ricky Jackson, Vaughn Johnson, Eric Martin, Renaldo Turnbull, Gil Fenerty, Ironhead, Brett Maxie, and Pat Swilling. Especially since Sam and Ironhead have died. Man, I can remember those guys like yesterday. I pulled all those names from memory. Maxie was such a stud, oh and Dalton Hilliard.

I want the Bears to win since I remember looking up to Walter Payton when I was growing up, and then crying when he died. I also used to beat all of my friends at TECMO Super Bowl when I played as the Bears. I would put Cap Boso in at RB to give Neal Anderson a rest, like the little computer pixels really needed a rest. :D

-Mike
 
Yes, that is true. I'll be happy if the Saints make it to Miami. All the sidelines to the story of the Saints will be great. I am sure more than a few of the Saints/Katrina stories will bring a tear to my eye.

At this point, I am torn on the NFCCG. I let my emotions get the better of me when it comes to picking games. I like Gard and his Saints, but I also like Jive and Oz and their Bears.

I want the Saints to win because I remember guys like Sam Mills, Ricky Jackson, Vaughn Johnson, Eric Martin, Renaldo Turnbull, Gil Fenerty, Ironhead, Brett Maxie, and Pat Swilling. Especially since Sam and Ironhead have died. Man, I can remember those guys like yesterday. I pulled all those names from memory. Maxie was such a stud, oh and Dalton Hilliard.

I want the Bears to win since I remember looking up to Walter Payton when I was growing up, and then crying when he died. I also used to beat all of my friends at TECMO Super Bowl when I played as the Bears. I would put Cap Boso in at RB to give Neal Anderson a rest, like the little computer pixels really needed a rest. :D

-Mike

awww thanks mike, me so happy me want to :crying:
 
Do any of you guys that are so high on the Saints really watch any games? There is not a corner or safety on the saints that can even come close to running with Bernard Berrian. You guys may not be aware of it but the Bears have a couple of running backs that aren't too bad either.Deuce and Reggie do not run nearly as well on grass and away from home.Do I think the Bears are gonna blow the saints out? No.But you guys make it sound like they are unbeatable and their not.I believe this game boils down to if Grossman has time( and the saints don't blitz alot) to set up and throw.If he doe's,it's gonna be a long day for the saints secondary.
 
Do any of you guys that are so high on the Saints really watch any games?

........you guys make it sound like they are unbeatable.

Hey now, it's alright. Give Gard and his buddies a break for once. He has never had a team this good before.

Steeler fans like me that have won the Super Bowl FIVE times now, and been to the AFCCG plenty more times are used to it, and can remain fairly calm during the playoffs.

-Mike
 
...........you guys make it sound like they are unbeatable and their not.I believe this game boils down to if Grossman has time( and the saints don't blitz alot) to set up and throw.If he doe's,it's gonna be a long day for the saints secondary.

agreed, they make sound like it's just gonna be the saints O against the Bears D all game....pffft.

the saints aint won nuthing except a division title this year
after a 3-13 season last year, great turnaround season no doubt. Just because they have the #1 offense IN YARDS
they don't deserve the kind of respect that you give a team that has been to a few more playoffs and won a lot more games than they have over the past years .:rollno:

They'll come in to Chicago on a chariot and leave on pumpkin
CINDERFELLAS:o

:D
 
Hey now, it's alright. Give Gard and his buddies a break for once. He has never had a team this good before.

Steeler fans like me that have won the Super Bowl FIVE times now, and been to the AFCCG plenty more times are used to it, and can remain fairly calm during the playoffs.

-Mike

sorry my sig's on the line here....and he has been getting lots of help from a certain packer fan:p
 
Do any of you guys that are so high on the Saints really watch any games? There is not a corner or safety on the saints that can even come close to running with Bernard Berrian. You guys may not be aware of it but the Bears have a couple of running backs that aren't too bad either.Deuce and Reggie do not run nearly as well on grass and away from home.Do I think the Bears are gonna blow the saints out? No.But you guys make it sound like they are unbeatable and their not.I believe this game boils down to if Grossman has time( and the saints don't blitz alot) to set up and throw.If he doe's,it's gonna be a long day for the saints secondary.

yeah, i watch most of the games every week. and i post on here my thoughts and observations on many games from all different matchups, not just ones that pertain to my team and my division... if you want some confirmation look back in every weekly thread, i'm there putting forth my ideas for discussion. and yes, i picked the saints in the conference game.

frankly, they are both flawed teams. but i think it's a matter of where those flaws lie, specifically one flaw for one team and one strength for another. drew brees has been the most consistent qb so far in the playoffs and i think his extensive experience, especially his experience playing in the very tough afc west for years, will give the saints the edge.

i haven't seen greatness in the bears defense for weeks. and while they are very talented, i just don't think they'll dominate. i expect brees to have the patience to pick apart their cover 2 while i think grossman will have some great plays and some awful ones.

to suggest that this game is somehow already in the bag is idiocy... this is a very wide open match that i expect to be an exciting game. it could certainly go either way, i'll just put myself on the side of the better qb because i think it's a sound policy. can you tell me really, if it's a close game that you'd rather have grossman than brees on your team?
 
Ahem, Page speaks:

I have detested the Colts for quite some time now. They are the one team the Broncos just can't seem to put away when it's important. However now, I must turn the other cheek. I have a lot of respect for that Colts team. They are my pick to win the Superbowl as of now. They will Defeat the Patriots. It will be a football battle that will go down as Legendary.The Colts will Triumph.

As for the NFCC game, New Orleans will win. The Bores got lucky when they beat the Seattle Josh Browns. They will not get so lucky this time. It will also be a close game though.

So , in the Meantime , GO BRONCOS!!! hahaha!
 
Hey now, it's alright. Give Gard and his buddies a break for once. He has never had a team this good before.

Steeler fans like me that have won the Super Bowl FIVE times now, and been to the AFCCG plenty more times are used to it, and can remain fairly calm during the playoffs.

-Mike

I know it.

I'm rooting for the Bears. I've been a secondhand Bears fan ever since one of my friends growing up gave me his Jim McMahon jersey when he outgrew it.
 
yeah, i watch most of the games every week. and i post on here my thoughts and observations on many games from all different matchups, not just ones that pertain to my team and my division... if you want some confirmation look back in every weekly thread, i'm there putting forth my ideas for discussion. and yes, i picked the saints in the conference game.

frankly, they are both flawed teams. but i think it's a matter of where those flaws lie, specifically one flaw for one team and one strength for another. drew brees has been the most consistent qb so far in the playoffs and i think his extensive experience, especially his experience playing in the very tough afc west for years, will give the saints the edge.

i haven't seen greatness in the bears defense for weeks. and while they are very talented, i just don't think they'll dominate. i expect brees to have the patience to pick apart their cover 2 while i think grossman will have some great plays and some awful ones.

to suggest that this game is somehow already in the bag is idiocy... this is a very wide open match that i expect to be an exciting game. it could certainly go either way, i'll just put myself on the side of the better qb because i think it's a sound policy. can you tell me really, if it's a close game that you'd rather have grossman than brees on your team?


Nowhere did you read that I thought the game was in the bag.I also believe it will be close . Being a huge Bear fan I'm really nervous about this game.Chicago will have to step it up a notch to win.There were some posters though that seemed to be giving the Bears no chance at all against the mighty Saints and I don't believe that to be the case.
 
Nowhere did you read that I thought the game was in the bag.I also believe it will be close . Being a huge Bear fan I'm really nervous about this game.Chicago will have to step it up a notch to win.There were some posters though that seemed to be giving the Bears no chance at all against the mighty Saints and I don't believe that to be the case.

There is no doubt the Bears have a chance. They have more than a chance.

However, I go with intangibles. Statistics throughout the season have meant very little. In this age of true parity, the Bears or Saints could just as easily lose to the Lions or Raiders Sunday. "On any given Sunday" has never meant more than it has this season.

This is all fun jabbing back and forth, but the truth is, no one is dominating. The old line about "making plays when they need it", or "good teams know how to win close games" only proves one thing...every game has been too close to call, and no team is dominating their opponents.

I mean, look at the 1996 Packers. They just flat out crushed their opponents, and still had some trouble with NE in the SB, before Reggie just took care of business. Look at the 85 Bears team. They just manhandled their opponents. In their SB, NE never had a chance.

That is not the case this year.

Personally, I have a feeling that the Bears are going to lose. It's more than my "love the Packers/hate the Bears" bias. New Orleans plays the game offensively in a somewhat unconventional fashion (in the way they use their receivers and Bush especially). Because they've been losing for so long, and are now taking the NFL by storm, teams just don't have a real good handle on how to defend against them.

It's like when a team prepares for a starting QB all week, and then two plays into the game he goes down and the backup comes in and fires bullets all day, leaving the opposing team scratching their heads.

The fact that the Bears are rather vanilla on offense, and stout on defense...and the Saints are creative and pretty high octane on offense, and pretty solid on defense leaves me thinking New Orleans has the edge.

The Bears will have to play mistake free ball control and crank it up a notch on defense, without blitzing and leaving themselves exposed to the big play...and gang tackle Bush, in order to win.

New Orleans needs to stay creative, and catch the Bear's defense off guard on offense, and stop the Bears running game in it's tracks, and force Grossman to beat them on defense, in order to win.

IMO, this will be one of the better NFC championship games we've had.

I still pick the Saints. They've got the mojo on their side. and being bass players we know what mojo can do for you, don't we?
 
.......... New Orleans plays the game offensively in a somewhat unconventional fashion (in the way they use their receivers and Bush especially).

If you look at this Saints offense it's just their version of the way the Rams played offense during the Greatest Show on Turf era. Something the coach Smith is very familiar with.
Granted it is not an easy team to defend..you just can't give the QB enough time to make his reads.
Yeah it can rack up yards , but once the field shortens up we'll see i expect to see Duece running it.
 
'dogue, down in N'awlins, they call it the "gris gris" (pronounced "gree-gree" for all y'all unfamiliar with the dialect in southern Lousy-ana), and yah, they done gon' put the gris gris on the Bears Sunday.

Ozzie, I'm sure you'll see plenty of Deuce, and you won't like it much, 'cuz he's gonna rack up another 100+ yard game once y'all drop into that cover 2 and stop loading the box to keep Brees from killing you fast.

You choose against this offense: die fast or die slow, but die you will.

;)
 
There is no doubt the Bears have a chance. They have more than a chance.

However, I go with intangibles. Statistics throughout the season have meant very little. In this age of true parity, the Bears or Saints could just as easily lose to the Lions or Raiders Sunday. "On any given Sunday" has never meant more than it has this season.

This is all fun jabbing back and forth, but the truth is, no one is dominating. The old line about "making plays when they need it", or "good teams know how to win close games" only proves one thing...every game has been too close to call, and no team is dominating their opponents.

I mean, look at the 1996 Packers. They just flat out crushed their opponents, and still had some trouble with NE in the SB, before Reggie just took care of business. Look at the 85 Bears team. They just manhandled their opponents. In their SB, NE never had a chance.

That is not the case this year.

Personally, I have a feeling that the Bears are going to lose. It's more than my "love the Packers/hate the Bears" bias. New Orleans plays the game offensively in a somewhat unconventional fashion (in the way they use their receivers and Bush especially). Because they've been losing for so long, and are now taking the NFL by storm, teams just don't have a real good handle on how to defend against them.

It's like when a team prepares for a starting QB all week, and then two plays into the game he goes down and the backup comes in and fires bullets all day, leaving the opposing team scratching their heads.

The fact that the Bears are rather vanilla on offense, and stout on defense...and the Saints are creative and pretty high octane on offense, and pretty solid on defense leaves me thinking New Orleans has the edge.

The Bears will have to play mistake free ball control and crank it up a notch on defense, without blitzing and leaving themselves exposed to the big play...and gang tackle Bush, in order to win.

New Orleans needs to stay creative, and catch the Bear's defense off guard on offense, and stop the Bears running game in it's tracks, and force Grossman to beat them on defense, in order to win.

IMO, this will be one of the better NFC championship games we've had.

I still pick the Saints. They've got the mojo on their side. and being bass players we know what mojo can do for you, don't we?


My hats off to you for a very honest and objective post. This is going to be a good game and whoever comes out will have been through a real battle.

I have changed my mind about you Sundogue, you aren't that bad of a Packer lover. :D :D