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No line out on amp
- Thread starter Jake VanDeYacht
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A DI will only send the guitar's signal to the interface. It will bypass any tone or effects produced by the amp. I mention this only because OP seems hellbent on using/ hearing his amp. What would be the point if the amp's sound is not included in the recording?
If it were me, I'd plug directly into the interface and build my amp in the DAW, then use headphones.
unless you add speaker simulation on the computer distorted tones will sound awful.
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People in hell want ice water.
I forgot about that part! Been a while since I used that type of set up. But my bass has a active EQ which helps that situation.
This does not solve his problem.
OP wants AMP TONE in his Recording and through his amp's speaker at the same time. This will not give AMP TONE into the computer.
How will this work?
If OP wants the speaker out for monitoring purposes only, and not playing with other instruments, maybe a "Y" adapter from the headphone out will do the trick. He'll get amp tone into his interface and amp out through headphones.
To reiterate what's wanted here (I see it getting ignored a lot):
-for GUITAR
-amp speaker audible in room
-amp speaker output or emulation recorded to DAW
-effectively no extra money spent
That USB connection seems to go both ways (for example, you can play music from another device thru the Marshall via USB), indicating that it should preserve the speaker output when using it as an audio interface. That's not guaranteed, though, and warrants testing, dunno if drivers or software is needed to make it work on a workstation computer either. If it's a mini USB then a phone charger cable is too small, but a lot of other devices use mini USB. Technically breaking the no $ rule, but a cable's a couple bucks and there's probably some at the grocery store.
If that works, sweet. If it doesn't, then the dream of getting both in-room speaker monitoring AND amp signal recorded to track without spending more money dies a gruesome death. Back to square one, but a smart investment in some more gear isn't necessarily the worst thing, nor is a bit of compromise if it gets you over a brick wall.
-for GUITAR
-amp speaker audible in room
-amp speaker output or emulation recorded to DAW
-effectively no extra money spent
That USB connection seems to go both ways (for example, you can play music from another device thru the Marshall via USB), indicating that it should preserve the speaker output when using it as an audio interface. That's not guaranteed, though, and warrants testing, dunno if drivers or software is needed to make it work on a workstation computer either. If it's a mini USB then a phone charger cable is too small, but a lot of other devices use mini USB. Technically breaking the no $ rule, but a cable's a couple bucks and there's probably some at the grocery store.
If that works, sweet. If it doesn't, then the dream of getting both in-room speaker monitoring AND amp signal recorded to track without spending more money dies a gruesome death. Back to square one, but a smart investment in some more gear isn't necessarily the worst thing, nor is a bit of compromise if it gets you over a brick wall.
Ok, I concede. You yourself said he might need a different amp. I was just offering an idea. Sounds like someone figured out USB might be a workable option
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It uses Micro USB. I’ll try out the built in audio interface when I get home and report back here.
Yeah, this strikes me as a non-solution...but that said, It's the first thing I thought of.
One of the reasons I chose the Fender Rumble Studio was all the dedicated outs and loops:
Really nice to be able to send amp tone or clean to the mix. The FRS40 can send XLR signal to the board both pre- and post-amp, and has its own effects loop (which ironically is where I keep the looper pedal). I have not yet used the USB control port.
I'm so used to recording everything with headphones on, it was an auto pilot response. I forgot the bit about wanting speaker on. Carry on everyone!
devnulljp
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You need to buy a DI. Put it inline between your bass and the amp. Run an XLR from the DI to your interface.
Or just go straight into your interface and listed on headphones from there, bypassing the amp if you don't want to spend any money at all and just use what you have.
Or just go straight into your interface and listed on headphones from there, bypassing the amp if you don't want to spend any money at all and just use what you have.
Why not pile on eh? Use the USB interface on your amp as both input/output from your computer. My Focusrite has that ability. I plug my bass into the front, and headphones (stay with me here) into the back. My computer records from and plays back through the Focusrite. It stands to reason that you could do the same with this amp, but rather than using headphones (like in my case) you can just use the speaker. So, [instrument] -> [front of amp] ->[USB]->[computer]. Set your computer to use the USB as the output device for audio so the playback, and your instrument now play back through the speaker in the amp. So your signal chain would look like this.
[instrument] -> [Amp (input)] ->[USB] -> [Computer (with USB set as both input and output)] -> [USB (same cable)] ->[Amp (speaker out)].
2 things I don't know about this, is 1.) does the USB bypass the eq section of the amp? 2.) will you get noticeable lag when live playing?
Maybe I've missed something, but this seems plausible. Otherwise, as others have said, that amp looks awesome, but maybe toss it up on Facebook Market Place and pickup something with a line out. Fender Rumble's with line outs are $125 - $200 on Reverb. Acoustic combo amps are similarly priced.
My $0.02 worth.
[instrument] -> [Amp (input)] ->[USB] -> [Computer (with USB set as both input and output)] -> [USB (same cable)] ->[Amp (speaker out)].
2 things I don't know about this, is 1.) does the USB bypass the eq section of the amp? 2.) will you get noticeable lag when live playing?
Maybe I've missed something, but this seems plausible. Otherwise, as others have said, that amp looks awesome, but maybe toss it up on Facebook Market Place and pickup something with a line out. Fender Rumble's with line outs are $125 - $200 on Reverb. Acoustic combo amps are similarly priced.
My $0.02 worth.
Jake, if you PM me your shipping address, I will send you a ProCo DB-1 direct box. It sits between your guitar and your amp (just like the Radial JDI in post #38), and lets you send a copy of the guitar signal to your recorder.
You can send me $15 for it whenever you have a spare $15.
I gigged with it about 500 times. It works flawlessly.
And if you want the amp's output sound to get recorded instead of the clean guitar sound, then if you can access the speaker wire within the amp, you can cut it and attach a female 1/4" inline connector on each end of the cut wire. Then you can use a very short speaker cable to connect between those two new connectors when you want to use the amp normally, and when you want to record, you can use two short speaker cables, one from the amp side into the input on the ProCo DB1, and one from the output of the DB1 into your amp's speaker. The DB1 will allow you to use it with either a line-level (instrument) signal OR a speaker-level signal. So in this arrangement, you would just plug the guitar into the amp as normal, get the tone you want, and send it with the DI into your recorder.
I will caution that it will sound harsh and bright because it's a full spectrum signal with way more highs than what you will hear coming out of your amp, because a physical speaker will naturally suppress the super high frequencies that are present in the amp's output. So you will have to EQ it in the recording software, or apply a cabinet simulator within the software if you have that option.
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