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NO MORE FRENCH CLASSES !!! EVER !

I was happy to leave french after high school. Learning French in Canada is about keeping Quebec happy. Nothing more.

Humm...I thought there were no politics on TB. I understand that no one cares in the US but please leave your high school political opinions out of TB. Obviously you don't know what your talking about.
Quebecious is not real Fench. That is like learning English from hanging out in Appalachia. ;) ;)
 
Quebecious is not real Fench. That is like learning English from hanging out in Appalachia. ;) ;)

That's like saying that Mexican or Puerto Rican Spanish is not real Spanish. I'm sure they would beg to differ. Sure, Quebecois is not Parisian French, but it's every bit as French as Acadian or Lebanese or anywhere else French is spoken. It's a living language, and that makes it as valid as any other versions of French spoken in this world.
 
That's like saying that Mexican or Puerto Rican Spanish is not real Spanish. I'm sure they would beg to differ.
Actually the Spanish would beg to differ. There are signigicant differences and my Spanish colleagues cringe when Americans come over speaking Mexican or PC flavored Spanish.

but it's every bit as French as Acadian or Lebanese or anywhere else French is spoken.

Lebanese?? The official language of Lebanon is Arabic
Article 11 [Official National Language]
Arabic is the official national language. A law determines the cases in which the French language may be used.
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It's a living language, and that makes it as valid as any other versions of French spoken in this world.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dialects_of_the_French_language

yep. But I was just having some fun. French cinema often pokes fun at the Quebecers as the slow cousin of the 'real' French. Much they way Americans make fun of people from the south.

did you see my smilies when I posted?
 
yep. But I was just having some fun. French cinema often pokes fun at the Quebecers as the slow cousin of the 'real' French. Much they way Americans make fun of people from the south.

did you see my smilies when I posted?

First time I'm aware of that one :eyebrow:

Granted though, Quebec should learn to speak and write french better. The few I've seen/heard was pretty awful.
 
I guess you weren't around for the language police.

Do you really want to start an argument here about the ways to protect french in North America? Get real!

And about the quote of our French friend MORF
"Granted though, Quebec should learn to speak and write french better. The few I've seen/heard was pretty awful." :eyebrow: Let's say that, reading your quote, the old continental colonialism is not dead :rollno: . What do you know about Quebec, its inhabitants and the context into which the langage evolved? Like I just told your other european friend, stop spreading your ignorance on TB!
 
Do you really want to start an argument here about the ways to protect french in North America? Get real!

And about the quote of our French friend MORF
"Granted though, Quebec should learn to speak and write french better. The few I've seen/heard was pretty awful." :eyebrow: Let's say that, reading your quote, the old continental colonialism is not dead :rollno: . What do you know about Quebec, its inhabitants and the context into which the langage evolved? Like I just told your other european friend, stop spreading your ignorance on TB!

I go there yearly. I have quite a few Quebec friends. Sorry, but your level of french is generally not so good. If it hurts your feelings I apologize, but given my experience (though limited) with Quebec, I can't say I'm amazed by your skills in the french language. If you think I actually give enough of a crap about Quebec (;)) to have a colonialist outlook on how you guys speak french, you give yourself way too much credit.

Speak it any way you like, for as long as you like, I don't mind nor really care, but I've seen adult from Quebec who've studied french in universities write french with grammar and conjugation (dont know if thats the english word) errors a lycéen wouldn't do here.

As for the context in which the language "evolved", I'm fine with that. But dont call it french :)

However if you know for a fact the contrary is true then I only ask for my opinion to be changed.
 
If you travel to Nice, you will fall down to your knees and kiss your French class's feet for giving you the power to communicate with all the lovely topless ladies around you.

And then, having a lovely French girlfriend would be the best way to further learn the language. ;)
 
For my oversea friend MORF (sorry, for all you TBers that cannot read it, I did not have time to translate). The OECD only statuate on reading (that's all I could find): Here it goes:
Les résultats de la troisième enquête du PISA (Programme international pour le suivi des acquis des élèves) ont de quoi réjouir le Canada et le Québec. Les Québécois démontrent une fois de plus qu'ils ont hérité de la bosse des maths, à l'échelle mondiale, ils se classent au 5e rang (contre le 6e en 2003), dépassés seulement par leurs homologues de Taïwan, Hong-Kong, Corée et Finlande. Si la Belle Province était un pays, elle obtiendrait le 4e rang mondial en lecture (contre le 3e en 2003) et le 4e en sciences (contre 10e en 2003), suivant la moyenne canadienne. La France accuse une légère baisse qui la place dans la moyenne (17e rang en maths et 19e en sciences).
 
Do you really want to start an argument here about the ways to protect french in North America? Get real!

And about the quote of our French friend MORF
"Granted though, Quebec should learn to speak and write french better. The few I've seen/heard was pretty awful." :eyebrow: Let's say that, reading your quote, the old continental colonialism is not dead :rollno: . What do you know about Quebec, its inhabitants and the context into which the langage evolved? Like I just told your other european friend, stop spreading your ignorance on TB!

Not interested in debating an argument that time has proven, never goes away.

I'm not European, BTW. I'm a maudit anglais tete carre who left 20 year ago. I very much know what I'm talking about and honestly don't care. ;)

I speak French daily and I'm proud of it and proud of having learned the language when I did.