NO MORE FRENCH CLASSES !!! EVER !

[crispygoat]

For my oversea friend MORF (sorry, for all you TBers that cannot read it, I did not have time to translate). The OECD only statuate on reading (that's all I could find): Here it goes:
Les résultats de la troisième enquête du PISA (Programme international pour le suivi des acquis des élèves) ont de quoi réjouir le Canada et le Québec. Les Québécois démontrent une fois de plus qu'ils ont hérité de la bosse des maths, à l'échelle mondiale, ils se classent au 5e rang (contre le 6e en 2003), dépassés seulement par leurs homologues de Taïwan, Hong-Kong, Corée et Finlande. Si la Belle Province était un pays, elle obtiendrait le 4e rang mondial en lecture (contre le 3e en 2003) et le 4e en sciences (contre 10e en 2003), suivant la moyenne canadienne. La France accuse une légère baisse qui la place dans la moyenne (17e rang en maths et 19e en sciences).

I'm not from Quebec, either France (well my dad is but still) but your article doesn't talk about our french being lousy or not...

Btw, being at it.. I've always wondered why Quebec called their hockey team Canadiens de Montreal when they want Quebec to be a country


On another note, I guess you guys' french classes were about learning how to speak it.. mine were about writing it and reading 1092310 pages books

 

[jsbass]

Was gibt's hier?

It's all about German.

 

[dlloyd]

 

[Hellbastard]

I go there yearly. I have quite a few Quebec friends. Sorry, but your level of french is generally not so good. If it hurts your feelings I apologize, but given my experience (though limited) with Quebec, I can't say I'm amazed by your skills in the french language. If you think I actually give enough of a crap about Quebec () to have a colonialist outlook on how you guys speak french, you give yourself way too much credit.

Speak it any way you like, for as long as you like, I don't mind nor really care, but I've seen adult from Quebec who've studied french in universities write french with grammar and conjugation (dont know if thats the english word) errors a lycéen wouldn't do here.

As for the context in which the language "evolved", I'm fine with that. But dont call it french

However if you know for a fact the contrary is true then I only ask for my opinion to be changed.

For my oversea friend MORF (sorry, for all you TBers that cannot read it, I did not have time to translate). The OECD only statuate on reading (that's all I could find): Here it goes:
Les résultats de la troisième enquête du PISA (Programme international pour le suivi des acquis des élèves) ont de quoi réjouir le Canada et le Québec. Les Québécois démontrent une fois de plus qu'ils ont hérité de la bosse des maths, à l'échelle mondiale, ils se classent au 5e rang (contre le 6e en 2003), dépassés seulement par leurs homologues de Taïwan, Hong-Kong, Corée et Finlande. Si la Belle Province était un pays, elle obtiendrait le 4e rang mondial en lecture (contre le 3e en 2003) et le 4e en sciences (contre 10e en 2003), suivant la moyenne canadienne. La France accuse une légère baisse qui la place dans la moyenne (17e rang en maths et 19e en sciences).[/QUOTE]

I'm sorry Bellbass but your argument here is completely weak, Morf was just pointing that at some levels people in Quebec make mistakes related to the grammar of french language, and you are quoting and article where they are talking about the skills people from Quebec have in Math; It's like trying to compare apples with strawberries.

 

[morf]

For my oversea friend MORF (sorry, for all you TBers that cannot read it, I did not have time to translate). The OECD only statuate on reading (that's all I could find): Here it goes:
Les résultats de la troisième enquête du PISA (Programme international pour le suivi des acquis des élèves) ont de quoi réjouir le Canada et le Québec. Les Québécois démontrent une fois de plus qu'ils ont hérité de la bosse des maths, à l'échelle mondiale, ils se classent au 5e rang (contre le 6e en 2003), dépassés seulement par leurs homologues de Taïwan, Hong-Kong, Corée et Finlande. Si la Belle Province était un pays, elle obtiendrait le 4e rang mondial en lecture (contre le 3e en 2003) et le 4e en sciences (contre 10e en 2003), suivant la moyenne canadienne. La France accuse une légère baisse qui la place dans la moyenne (17e rang en maths et 19e en sciences).

So what do sciences and math have to do with speaking and writing French? A little bitter aren't we EH my Canadian friend. Seriously GUY, chill. Pas besoin de "crisser". lmao

 

[Bob Lee (QSC)]

Btw, being at it.. I've always wondered why Quebec called their hockey team Canadiens de Montreal when they want Quebec to be a country

Actually, Québec called their team les Nordiques …

 

[Bellbass]

The little article was for the "obtiendrait le 4e rang mondial en lecture (contre le 3e en 2003) " which translate Quebecers would rank 4th worldwide in reading. Sure, they can't speak propertly but they can read quite a bit!

Why did the hockey team was called the "Canadiens" ? Montreal had a hockey team at the beginning of the 20th century, the Maroons, and its players were anglophones. When people from Montreal decided to put together a team of francophones players they called it "Les Canadiens" because that's how they french where called: Canadiens. Till 1950, the term "Canadien" was used to identify french canadians only and the word in english "Canadian" was barely used . Canada was a Dominion and as much as the french population was turned towards France, the english population was turn towards the British Empire (many english Canadians opposed the Maple Leaf flag in the 60s because that meant the disappearance of the Union Jack on the Canadian flag). It's only since the 50s that the english population identifies itself with the term Canadian. Then the Canadien became Canadien -français (french canadian) and then in the 70s Québécois (Quebecer). It's at that time, when the identity shifted from Canadien to Québécois, that the independance movement began.

 

[morf]

The little article was for the "obtiendrait le 4e rang mondial en lecture (contre le 3e en 2003) " which translate Quebecers would rank 4th worldwide in reading. Sure, they can't speak propertly but they can read quite a bit!

Why did the hockey team was called the "Canadiens" ? Montreal had a hockey team at the beginning of the 20th century, the Maroons, and its players were anglophones. When people from Montreal decided to put together a team of francophones players they called it "Les Canadiens" because that's how they french where called: Canadiens. Till 1950, the term "Canadien" was used to identify french canadians only and the word in english "Canadian" was barely used . Canada was a Dominion and as much as the french population was turned towards France, the english population was turn towards the British Empire (many english Canadians opposed the Maple Leaf flag in the 60s because that meant the disappearance of the Union Jack on the Canadian flag). It's only since the 50s that the english population identifies itself with the term Canadian. Then the Canadien became Canadien -français (french canadian) and then in the 70s Québécois (Quebecer). It's at that time, when the identity shifted from Canadien to Québécois, that the independance movement began.

Since you insist on getting owned...

Les critiques soulignent la difficulté à comparer des systèmes éducatifs différents, animés de philosophies différentes, et donc à exploiter les résultats des tests. Ainsi en France, l'APMEP (association des professeurs de mathématiques de l'enseignement public), notant les meilleures performances des élèves finlandais aux tests de mathématiques, souligne-t-elle la différence entre l'enseignement français, soucieux de développer l’« accès à l’abstraction, à la symbolisation, à la rigueur », et l'enseignement des mathématiques appliquées au réel et aux situations concrètes tel qu'il se pratique dans d'autres pays : « rien ne prouve que l’accent mis sur les mathématiques du « réel » soit corrélatif d’avancement dans le développement de compétences spécifiques dans le domaine mathématique »

L'AMPEP voit également un risque possible induit par les enquêtes PISA : « Déjà, dans plusieurs pays, on observe une incitation des responsables des systèmes éducatifs à modifier l’enseignement, la formation des enseignants et même les programmes, pour s’adapter aux conceptions et aux tests de PISA »

Yeah, I thought so

As for being able "to read", it doesn't mention in what language

 

[Lammchop93]

I just got done listing all of my highschool classes. I am taking German for 3 years to get the highest diploma. I hope it goes well.

 

[Bob Lee (QSC)]

I just got done listing all of my highschool classes. I am taking German for 3 years to get the highest diploma. I hope it goes well.

Viel Glück! Ich habe fünf Jahre Deutsch in der Schule gelernt, aber immer brauche ich Übung.