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Non-ferrous flatwound string for fretless slapping

Discussion in 'Strings [BG]' started by mheintz, Nov 27, 2004.

  1. mheintz


    Nov 18, 2004
    I am looking for a non-ferrous flatwound string, which has a decent slap tone. Any suggestions? Thomastik Acousticores probably don't have enough tension and are too light. If you've tried them, let me know how they work. Any others?
  2. I've never heard of a non ferrous flatwound before. Acousticores are roundwounds.
  3. mheintz


    Nov 18, 2004
    Yes, you are right. Any flatwound equivalents?
  4. johnvice


    Sep 7, 2004
    I wouldn't slap on a fretless, you'll damage your fretboard.
  5. mheintz


    Nov 18, 2004
    I'm not worried about fretboard damage. The sound is what I'm after. On that note, I may convert an old pair of Pirastro Obligatos and put them on my electric. Perhaps satisfying my craving for medium tension, non-ferrous flatwounds. Anyone ever convert upright strings? How much of the wrapping can one remove?
  6. mikezimmerman

    mikezimmerman Supporting Member

    Apr 29, 2001
    Omaha, Nebraska
    We're back to the question of what you mean by "non-ferrous". The TI Acousticores don't have a metal core, and so can't be used with magnetic pickups. Is that what you mean? Or do you mean a nylon-wrapped string like the black LaBellas, that's intended to mimick the upright tone but can also be used with magnetic pickups?

  7. mheintz


    Nov 18, 2004
    Yes, like the TI Acousticores, but flatwound. I have piezo and lightwave pickups, and I'm interested in experimenting. Bronze, aluminum, copper, gut, nylon etc... The Obligatos are synthetic. They have some metal but not enough to be used with a magnetic pickup. They are flexible and warm sounding like gut, but less tempermental. So any non-ferrous flatwounds for bass guitar?
  8. slugworth

    slugworth Banned

    Jun 12, 2003
    So. Calif.
    The only non-ferrous flatwounds I've ever seen were on a Bajo Sexto. They looked like nylon to me.

  9. slugworth

    slugworth Banned

    Jun 12, 2003
    So. Calif.
    The usual tapewound type bass strings sound and feel like there's no metal in them at all. Very upright bass sounding.

  10. HawkBoyXVI

    HawkBoyXVI Hairbrained Schemer

    Oct 25, 2004
    Lawton, OK
    I'm looking for a set of classical guitar-style nylon strings for an acoustic bass...Are these even made?
  11. pierce

    pierce freethinker

    May 25, 2000
    San Francisco, Ca
    well, unless im misunderstanding you, by non-ferrous do you mean not made of iron (ferrum). in which case would d'addario chromes work?. how about nickelwounds?
  12. FireAarro


    Aug 8, 2004
    Yep you are, he means not containing iron.
  13. D'addario Chromes still are ferrous, they just have a high chrome content (hence the name), maybe 5 % chrome or so. If it were pure chrome it'd be brittle as well as non magnetic.
  14. mheintz


    Nov 18, 2004
    I contacted Thomastik and they indicated that they could not create flatwound versions of the acousticores. Caroline Hudson at Big City Strings suggested that I contact "Bob" at LaBella (800-750-3034), but I have not yet done so. Incidentally, you can use John Pearse's string winder to add ball ends to non-bass strings. See http://www.jpstrings.com/braccess.htm. If one were so inclined, you could also modify double bass strings, e.g. pirastro obligatos or gut strings, so long as you cut only into the wrappings. Unfortunately, this is an expensive experiment, one which I haven't had the courage to do even though I have a spare set of obligatos. Another option is to modify nylon bass harp strings, which are much less expensive. However, I believe that the harp range only extends to the C above the bass low B, but you could just tune the lowest string down.