LOL! Amen to this! Not saying that the OP is doing this but it's amazing to me how often this pops up. You never see a thread about somebody saying that their fuzz is too fuzz-y
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Non-Funky Envelope Filter
- Thread starter Fab Savage
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LOL! Amen to this! Not saying that the OP is doing this but it's amazing to me how often this pops up. You never see a thread about somebody saying that their fuzz is too fuzz-y
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i realized one thing ... the GR does not play that nice overdrive, and takes on fuzz like oil to water.
i realized i get more responsive action from it when i turned off the rusty box and just played straight through it and the amp.
i accidentally discovered that when i transferred the GR to my guitar board and as i was jamming with it, i noticed it sounded terrible/muddy when the Redwitch fuzz god is on...
envelope filter != funk
Listen to "Dragonaut" by Sleep. And that was done with a Mu-Tron, which is supposed to be the holy grail of funk.
Listen to "Dragonaut" by Sleep. And that was done with a Mu-Tron, which is supposed to be the holy grail of funk.
I guess it goes to show just how differently people hear/use the gear that we spend so much time discussing.
For me, using the Rusty Box before the GR sounds fantastic. It's not something I typically do, as the pop band where I use the GR doesn't really call for much in the way of overdrive. On the rare occasion where it makes sense I've been very happy with the results. I used to do the same thing with a VT to great success, but the Rusty Box replaced it and I'm even happier.
Sorry to hear you're not having a great time with it.
IMO, the SA BEFPro can do some decidely "non-funky" type tones either using it as a wah or especially when using the LFO with tap tempo.
I honestly don't have a clue to as what sound the OP is searching for. If using a wah pedal is to his liking....then he's found his sound.
Non funky, unfunky....very subjective.
Non funky, unfunky....very subjective.
Sorry for the confusion team, I guess non-funky could mean anything.
Im really just think-tanking the idea. I actually do like funk but dont actually play funk and was looking for something that I could use practically. I guess sound wise maybe something like this at 2:22
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I actually think this was done with a dunlop wah pedal so you guys are probably right - Im probably sorted already for wah sounds but discussion is always fun
Sounds to me like you need a filter that lets you impart more control. Lower the Q so it's not so peaky, lower the sensitivity so the filter doesn't reach it's range so quickly and will move slower, lower the frequency so to keep it focused in the low mids, maybe a downsweep mode instead of upsweep mode.
You could get an expression capable lowpass with envelope follower and have total control. Moog or Xerograph
I know one thing for sure, I definitely like SLEEP ... thanks bigchief
me too nice one big chief!
It seems like you're happy with your wah; is there a specific reason why you're looking for an envelope filter? Do you want to take a break from rocking the pedal with your foot?
Regarding the "non-funky" part, wahs can be mighty funky, too, depending on how they're played. Some envelope filters are more wah-like, but they can only approximate the sound of a treadle wah; they can't quite duplicate it. Conversely, unless you have a bionic foot and super-human coordination, a treadle wah can't duplicate the sound and action of a tight, funky envelope filter.
I agree - - the MXR is very versatile. You can go from really "quacky" to mellow or muddy with the turn of a couple knobs. I suggest trying it out
Thanks guys
Ill give the MXR a go given that its fairly cheap.
If it doesnt make me tingle, I may try the xero, or most likely, as a few have said, just stick with my treadle wah!
Ill give the MXR a go given that its fairly cheap.
If it doesnt make me tingle, I may try the xero, or most likely, as a few have said, just stick with my treadle wah!
The Xerograph can act as an envelope filter or a wah (if you use an expression pedal). I use a $40 moog ep2 exp pedal and it works like a charm. Click the soundcloud link in my sig if you wanna hear some examples. I got the MXR first and then switched to the Xero a few months later. My application for filter is mainly for synth sounds, but I do like me some funk too...
